What is up with this toxic community

**Leigaon** · 03-02-2017 10:30 PM

During the slow sessions between major patches to the game it's not bad at all. Well for me I've ran into a lot of nice people now that we can get people from other servers.

When you get to the point we're at now a few things come into play that cause the jerks to come out. Won't go through them all but the way gear / content is set up and mix it up with the mentality of "I need it all now" adds up. We're getting people now who want to have all the relics for 4.0 and just that alone is a frustrating experience if you do it so many times. You're running the same thing multiple times and realize that each job role is essentially the same for 90% of the content, and the bit that is different makes no huge difference. It's at these times I take a nice long break, come back renewed and jump into the beauty again.

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheSequel

One other thing that has been bugging me is this constant need to pull till I reach a door or some barrier and then just AoE everything. I understand people would rather go quicker i to would like quick but C'mon.. baelsars very first pull and tanks just running straight to the door and no one focuses on archers and we all die.. a healers dream let me tell you. Guess who's fault it ends up being??

The "pull it all" mentality comes from two things, one is that people see others doing it and getting it done faster. Not many people like seeing others do something quicker than them so they jump on board. Also, as you go along you'll notice after so much time if you pull a large group it's the same as pulling a small. The iLV makes things die faster, you're still doing the same AoE rotations.

Some later dungeons have things like the archers, people ignore them. Most were mini-tank busters but thanks to the iLV, made it obsolete after so long. This is just another version, DPS need to take those kinds down. I hope they do more of that later, mobs that do damage to random party members to make it harder to heal without it becoming worthless later through iLV.

Cheer up, when we get to 4.0 everyone will be happy! I will!

**Istaru** · 03-02-2017 11:00 PM

I do not have any problems being kicked from runs. I tank, DPS and heal while DPSing, and while I have seen people with poor attitudes, I usually run with at least enough friends to remove anyone who is being toxic to the party.

Personally, I don't kick bad players that don't do a certain amount of DPS, or won't DPS as a healer or pull everything as a tank. I don't really care that much.

I will kick for the following:

Poor attitude and being hostile
Cheating the ilvl system by wearing inappropriate accessories

That is about it for me. All I ask is that you try to do your best, even if <500 DPS in a 60 dungeon is your best, and don't be a jackwagon.

**molzilla** · 03-02-2017 11:03 PM

I've been noticing a fair bit of attitude/toxicity from player recently, surprisingly moreso from sprouts than anyone else.

Currently in the Novice Network as a returner and had a sprout in the NN who was a tank class (think they had previously stated that they were ex-WOW too) who began complaining that nobody was explaining mechanics to them when they were in dungeons/trials. When I suggested they quickly skimmed a wiki before jumping in so they knew what to do, they threw a minor tantrum at me. Seen a considerable increase in this sort of behaviour since I've re-subbed.

**Fuma** · 03-02-2017 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by molzilla

(think they were ex-WOW too)

Don't think, know before you make a comment like that, just sounds petty otherwise, lol. And if you're in the middle of a duty and telling someone to go read a wiki it could easily be taken as rude even if you didn't mean it that way. It was new to all of us at one point in time. Next time just try to give them a real simple explanation as fights really aren't that hard to explain until you're doing extreme primals or any of the raids that require some coordination.

**molzilla** · 03-02-2017 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Fuma

Don't think, know before you make a comment like that, just sounds petty otherwise, lol. And if you're in the middle of a duty and telling someone to go read a wiki it could easily be taken as rude even if you didn't mean it that way. It was new to all of us at one point in time. Next time just try to give them a real simple explanation as fights really aren't that hard to explain until you're doing extreme primals or any of the raids that require some coordination.

I was just saying think as I semi-recalled them saying in Novice Network that they tanked in WoW too. We weren't in a dungeon, just having a discussion in the Novice Network at the time! Probably should've been a little clearer about that, sorry! ^^;

Edit: edited my original post for a little more clarity! ^_^

**Voltyblast** · 03-03-2017 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Not that I agree with them harassing but... wait for your first rotation? Do you mean to imply not attacking until you've done a full aggro combo? If so, that's a mistake on your part. As a tank, you open with either your ranged aggro ability or aoe chain pull depending on what you're aiming to do. At lower levels, you'll want to spam your aoe aggro ability at least 2-4 times then rotate your combo between mobs.

First of all, it was Somh Al HM not some lame lower level dungeon where I'm so hindered that I can't even use butcher's block.
Secondly, I did use tomahawk and even if I didn't, I couldn't keep up because even before using skull sunder (aka the second attack) they already overaggroed like crazy and the guy died because of it: I'm 262 with a 260 relic so unless I totally suck (and I don't considering that I did another dungeon right after totally flawlessly), I can safely say that they didn't allow me to grab enough aggro to keep it stable. And funnily enough, their aggro meters didn't even 1/4 of the bar when I finished my very first rotation, which means something was wrong on their behalf. Plus I have enough tanking experience to see these kinds of mistakes and I wasn't bothered with it: what bothered me is their reaction to such a simple mistake and putting the blame on me.

Or what, are you going to say that it's safe for BLM to use fire 4 right of the bat, WITHOUT quelling strike, and blame it on the tank? ((this is just an example)

And let's assume just for a second that you're right (you're not) and that I did a mistake on how to keep aggro and stuff, are you saying it was right for them to offend me calling me the B word, letting me die for no reason (i was mass pulling like usual: did that before this argument arrived) and then kicking me because of that for absolutely no reason other than to put the blame on me?

Geeze this community IS toxic....

**Istaru** · 03-03-2017 03:21 AM