Stop Giving the "Need" Command for Drop Gear in Dungeons to Higher Geared Players!

[skyfox]

You can't blame them for hitting "Need" for what they entitled to do in so in the game. Obviously there is difference between people actually going to wear it or "use" it for other purpose. I admit I happened to hit "Need" just for GC seal as it is being used to exchange Atma item. If you really want, speak up and ask them politely see if you can have item before they hit "Need". 8/10 times they let me have the item unless they really need one too.

[Shougun]

Truth be told, I'd also rather we'd have more roll options.

Stats
Glam
Seals (Instant conversion without clogging inventory)
Desynth (Instant Conversion, only available if desynth level is high enough)

Seal option automatically turns into "Pass" if seal cap is reached. Likewise for the other options if the item is already in your possession. That'd be neat >_>

I like this but I think it might be helpful/encouraging to add a partial reward to seal/desnyth and lower the priority to obtaining the item. For example Seal has lower priority than greed, so you wouldn't get the full item if someone else hit greed but you'd still get something, and greed could be renamed to Glamour/Stats if wanted (and perhaps needing can only be done if it's near your item level).

So you could Seal / Desynth every item partialy even if you don't win, like half seals and half desnyth reward. If everyone passes but you then seal/desnyth will be full % rather than partial.

This would be a good to choose as A. you wouldn't feel guilty, as someone who needed it for gear could still get it and B. you don't actually have to win the item, everyone could get partial seal reward if they wanted so it would be wiser to roll seal/desnyth if that's what you wanted it for and other people actually wanted to use it because you would be assured to get something.

This would make: 100% chance for 50% reward or better VS old system: 25% chance or worse for 100% reward - so its statistically better to be honest what you want to use it for.

If you don't make rules to the options I think most people will still behave similarly, and I think adding the roll options is to help encourage people to behave differently

[Newmanxeno]

I already don't like running dungeons, please don't take away my right to need things for seals.

[alimdia]

On the other hand, in this game it's basically need everything you can forever without a second thought and people would rather have some gil or whatever than let another player upgrade a piece of gear.

Unlike WoW, FFXIV has accessible gear through tomestones, it's not a dev oversight that dungeon gear has such low item level, dungeon loot is set to be multi purpose, desynth, glamour and GC seals are included in those purposes, and they assume we're actively getting seals whenever they add recipes or relic steps that require GC seal mats.

Here any player will be wearing uncapped tomestone gear in a matter of three or four days, dungeon gear wasn't meant to be more than a very temporary upgrade.

[Serilda]

Not seeing how your right to get the loot for a completely different job you're not using beats out their right to roll on something they want. There's a piece of glamour gear I have wanted for about two years and still never managed to have drop. My wife has it, my friend has it; I've run that dungeon countless times trying to get it and failed. If I'm ever running it with someone else, you better believe I'm coming on the appropriate job and Needing on it if I see it - I'll gladly pass on any other treasure. If a high level player is running some easy content and making it quicker for you, you're benefiting from their help and of course they deserve a fair shot at a reward for their time spent.

But talking helps. Talking to your group members, that is, rather than some random people on a forum.

[RLofOBFL]

You need the stats? I need the GC seals.

If someone speaks up and asks I do pass on it. (They don't even need a good reason.)

[Canadane]

Needing it for stats is equal to needing it for GC seals.

[Arutan]

I am getting sick and tired of finding a piece of gear I need for one of my Job classes and someone with higher lvl gear who clearly doesn't need it anymore goes and hits the "Need" button anyways and snatches it away!

I do need them for company seals.

[Clethoria]

snipped- Do it with friends who will let you have the item or ask your random group beforehand.

Literally all of this. A shirt I wanted wasn't available on the MB, so I intended to run the required dungeon for it. My 60 MNK may have not needed it, but it would have made a nice glamour and piece of optimal EQ for if I decided on trying out a DoW that I never bothered with. Plus, as a FC owner, encouraging my members to contribute to points I feel is a must. And GC turn ins do increase them.

[Blazinhart]

Instead of complaining, why don't you ask nicely to get the pieces you want, and if they are nice and don't need It, they will pass. I've done It many times and people passed It for me. Simple