[Tanks/Healers]: Are you disappointed there is no new job in 4.0?

[Sil3ntxR3qui3m]

No... I'm not disappointed. I'm not gonna switch my main just because new jobs are out. I'll play them and level them up but by no means does this mean I'm not ever gonna heal again. Kinda silly that people are complaining about this, imho. We know why they did it and I really don't care.

[Jim_Berry]

I'm not disappointed. Even before Heavensward, I had PLD, WAR, and WHM leveled to 50. I now have PLD, WAR, DRK, WHM to level 60. I am currently working on SCH and AST.

I don't play WAR, though, but when DRK released, I didn't jump on it until later, as I still preferred my PLD. The only reason I looked at DRK was because people didn't want PLD in Gordias at the time; I started doing DRK when Midas released, and I like it. I play both PLD and DRK equally, though (DRK for Dungeons, some Primals, and some old Raid content while PLD is for Primals and Raid content).

Since I have retired all my Lv60 DPS classes (BRD, NIN, DRG), and I have no intentions on unlocking MNK or getting BLM or SMN to Lv60 (although I will get SMN naturally due to SCH's ACN class), if a new tank was to release, I'll play it, but PLD/DRK will still be my mains.

[Altena]

Because Tanks and Healers just got their new shiny in the current running expac..

Let heavy melee and caster DPS get a new shiny. Neither have had any love since pre-2.0, which also probably pre-dates most of you.

A heavy melee and caster DPS are extremely different to a ranged support and support melee DPS... These are the only two DPS classes we have had since 2.0's launch in these roles so it's well overdue.

Please guys, stop coming across as such entitled little babies. This is a multi-class game for a reason - expand and enjoy the rest of the classes that this game has to offer.

I say all of this as a WAR main.

[Drakkaelus]

If you think that Tanks and Healers need to exist in some state of perfect balance before they add more jobs for them then you might as well resign yourself to never getting anything new because that day will never come.

And can we please stop dividing DPS into 10 different subgroups so we can pretend like it's been years since they've got a new class? It's stupid and you're not fooling anyone.

[Altena]

And can we please stop dividing DPS into 10 different subgroups so we can pretend like it's been years since they've got a new class? It's stupid and you're not fooling anyone.

Eh? You obviously have never played 2 different DPS in this game.

There is a reason there are different types of DPS. Just because they have the same red icon, does not mean they have the same role in a party, or even remotely play the same.

I personally can't stand the caster DPS or ranged DPS in this game, yet I love playing Melee DPS.
That alone shows that melee DPS have been unfortunate with only 2 options since the release of 1.0.

[SDaemon]

Because Tanks and Healers just got their new shiny in the current running expac..

DPS also got a new shiny in HW with MCH...

Eh? You obviously have never played 2 different DPS in this game.

There is a reason there are different types of DPS. Just because they have the same red icon, does not mean they have the same role in a party, or even remotely play the same.

I personally can't stand the caster DPS or ranged DPS in this game, yet I love playing Melee DPS.
That alone shows that melee DPS have been unfortunate with only 2 options since the release of 1.0.

And a PLD doesn't play like a DRK or WAR. A WHM does not play like a AST or SCH. Each tank and healer job brings something different to the group and plays differently. Just because they have that blue and green icon next to them doesn't not mean they play the same way.

And can we please stop dividing DPS into 10 different subgroups so we can pretend like it's been years since they've got a new class? It's stupid and you're not fooling anyone.

I can't support this enough!

[JunseiKei]

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No, I'm not disappointed. To be fair, WAR is leaps and bound ahead of PLD and DRK. AST is leaps and bounds ahead of WHM and SCH. There is no real balance between the two roles to the point that I am actually relieved they did not add another factor into this inbalance. Here's hoping to that gap being closed more than it is right now before they add any new tanks or healers.

[Beckett]

I was really hoping for a Blue Mage tank that I could switch to, and I'm not really looking forward to two more years of the same old, same old. I'm hoping that the job changes will make Paladin feel fresh to play again.

Maybe I'll take the opportunity to try out some of the jobs that I haven't really given a fair shake to, like Warrior or Astrologian.

[Altena]

DPS also got a new shiny in HW with MCH...

Melee DPS didn't.
Caster DPS didn't.
They are both very different roles to a support ranged DPS.

At a stretch, your best argument here is that NIN is a melee.

"All DPS playing in the same red DPS icon = DPS fill the same role or even remotely appeal to the same audience" is an extremely closed minded way of thinking.

And a PLD doesn't play like a DRK or WAR. A WHM does not play like a AST or SCH. Each tank and healer job brings something different to the group and plays differently. Just because they have that blue and green icon next to them doesn't not mean they play the same way.

The difference between a PLD, DRK and WAR is negligable compared to the difference between a MCH and a DRG or MNK. Same can be said if you flipped the tank jobs with the healer jobs in that statement.

I main WAR, but I play all jobs to some level. You should too. Branch out and enjoy the other classes and be happy that we will finally have new options for caster and heavy melee.
Many people have been waiting for a new heavy melee since the release of 1.0 and we haven't got it.

[loreleidiangelo]

If you think that Tanks and Healers need to exist in some state of perfect balance before they add more jobs for them then you might as well resign yourself to never getting anything new because that day will never come.

Yeah, you sure beat the stuffing outta that strawman! Way to go!