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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    We don't have that system, so it is wrong for people to have multiple homes on the same server.
    The solution is not to ban people from owning more than one home. The real solution is for us to advocate for SE to actually fix their housing system so that everyone can have a house without ever worrying about "Is there enough?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    The solution is not to ban people from owning more than one home. The real solution is for us to advocate for SE to actually fix their housing system so that everyone can have a house without ever worrying about "Is there enough?"
    Advocating SE to fix their issue would result in them going toward instanced housing or a system similar to apartments. That would forcefully tether one house per character and one house per fc with the option to pick the neighborhood, housing in its current state cannot a support one player owing 9 plots, again go back to my post on this if you own more then one house and your alt doesn't log in outside of resetting a count down, you're doing more damage to an already broken system that you yourself suggest should be fixed.
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    I don't think that would solve it at all. Very, very few people even use Alt characters, much less purchase multiple housing plots. Unless they are the type of jerk that buys up plots in order to resell them out of game.

    I do agree there should be a one house per account limit though, for the reason above (gil sellers/jerks buying multiple locations to resell at higher prices out of game).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    I don't think that would solve it at all. Very, very few people even use Alt characters, much less purchase multiple housing plots. Unless they are the type of jerk that buys up plots in order to resell them out of game.

    I do agree there should be a one house per account limit though, for the reason above (gil sellers/jerks buying multiple locations to resell at higher prices out of game).
    Maybe an RP thing but Alts are not that weird of a concept over here, and of course house resellers - which I'm not sure how many there are, just that I KNOW of some personally and assume there are more. It won't solve it for end and all but I imagine at least 200 lots coming off lock (I know four people who together own 25 lots, I assume as Balmung has many players that there are many more who can and do multi lot purchases), and preventing Shirogane being monopolized for money later.

    If only they actively added more wards to the full servers, and stopped adding equally to the quiet ones - maybe that'd help out a lot. But I do agree this won't "solve it" but at least on my own server I think it would significantly help until they can do something better, like make lots instanced, or add a massive amount of wards.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Advocating SE to fix their issue would result in them going toward instanced housing or a system similar to apartments. That would forcefully tether one house per character and one house per fc with the option to pick the neighborhood
    I see no problem with this, as it's how housing works in many other MMOs. Instanced housing means you can have more resources invested in customization, item placement limits can be MUCH higher (think on the order of thousands), and really the possibilities are endless.

    I do not see your suggestion as "fixing" anything, only making an already restrictive system more onerous for players. Instanced housing is really the only good solution, unless SE wants to talk to Turbine and learn how to develop auto-spawning new neighborhoods a la LotRO.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I see no problem with this, as it's how housing works in many other MMOs. Instanced housing means you can have more resources invested in customization, item placement limits can be MUCH higher (think on the order of thousands), and really the possibilities are endless.

    I do not see your suggestion as "fixing" anything, only making an already restrictive system more onerous for players. Instanced housing is really the only good solution, unless SE wants to talk to Turbine and learn how to develop auto-spawning new neighborhoods a la LotRO.
    Giving every single player a instanced house isn't making anything more restrictive. As that is what I was suggesting so I have no idea how you determined instanced housing is bad, then say it's good.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 02-26-2017 at 01:20 PM.

  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Giving every single player a instanced house isn't making anything more restrictive.
    That's not what this thread is about... And I already said that I would LIKE everyone to have an instanced house.

    [edit] I see where I got confused. Sorry, I was responding to you as though you were the OP. xD
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    Last edited by Naunet; 02-26-2017 at 01:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Players already pay for multiple characters monthly.
    no i'm saying pay a monthly for private house that are over 1 house have them pay 30 to 60$ a month for extra houses if they are in such dire need of them SE makes a profit players get there extra 6 or more houses. hell i've been told gilgamesh as a player that owns an entire ward all to himself not sure if he still does but that shit is just fawking rude when other honest people could use a home for role play or fc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madepossible View Post
    Room for everyone in Shirogane! Why not?
    I would agree with you only if the Producer allows us to share the Private Property with all characters under the same account and under the same world, otherwise it wouldn't be fair!...

    Naturally this means housing must be limited to one per server and not per account as you suggest!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    I disagree with this. There is something wrong when there's a limited resource (housing), that some players have multiple others have none. If housing was not a limited resource then multiple house ownership wouldn't be a problem but that's not the system we're working in. There's no justification for some players having multiple homes while others have to go without even one because of it. It's selfishness pure and simple.
    From a purely pragmatic sense, there isn't. Just because the housing system is incredibly flawed does not mean people have to care. Is it decent of them to not own multiple houses or give one away to people who couldn't get one? Absolutely. But no one is entitled. The onus is on Square Enix to either lock houses to our accounts or scrap the entire system and go with instanced housing. If they insist on this whole neighbourhood aesthetic then do what Sims 4 did with instanced neighbours: 4-5 lots in size. Unfortunately, the devs have a propensity to cling to broken ideas they prefer (looking at you Grand Company restrictions) for years.

    What annoys me is I have to purchase two houses if I want to upgrade lest I be forced to abandon my current one and hope I get lucky. Not only am I out several millions, I may wind up with nothing if I did opt to go that route. Hardly an incentive.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 02-26-2017 at 02:04 PM.

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