Got kicked from The Aetherochemical Research Facility by mentor

[Canadane]

While it sucks you were kicked, you may have wanted to listen to the mentor there and did larger pulls. I understand new places can be scary, especially as a tank and a newly geared one at that, but have some trust and faith in your party and mentors to see you through it alive!

[jameseoakes]

While it sucks you were kicked, you may have wanted to listen to the mentor there and did larger pulls. I understand new places can be scary, especially as a tank and a newly geared one at that, but have some trust and faith in your party and mentors to see you through it alive!

Not sure anyone should trust someone who's idea of mentoring is just to spam "pull all"

[Lewtskie]

Yeah, something tells me the mentor yelling at OP was doing so out of impatience and not because they carefully calculated their gear and the healer's and made an experienced judgement. Usually those who do would be able to reassure the tank and apply some positive reinforcement, not spam "pull all".

[Callinon]

On the flip side of that I was the sole mentor in an Aery the other day while I was leveling my WAR.

Now I'm not a great tank at the best of times, but I'm working on leveling all my jobs to 60 before the expansion and it's on the list. I actually like PLD and DRK a lot better than WAR. I'm a lot more comfortable with those than WAR... but it's on the list, so we press forward.

So I queue up for The Aery and we start. As is standard procedure for leveling dungeons I'm pulling cautiously, both because I can never be sure of the capabilities of my healer and I'm not super confident in my ability to handle multiple packs on WAR (on PLD no problem... for days... on WAR, no, I am hyper squish). On the second pack the BRD pulls the next pack. We deal with that (though I did almost die) and I ask him in party chat not to do that again.

Guess how well that works out.

After the first boss you drop down that shaft. There's a pack down there, I pull it.. then the WHM goes forward and pulls the next pack of dragonets. Because it's the WHM, I pick them up. Then I stop and repeat that this is not a good idea and that I need to be the only one pulling things.

WHM: "we'll tank it if you won't"

I actually considered just standing there and not continuing the dungeon at this point, but I had my crown on and acting like some kind of brat (despite that's exactly what they were doing to me) seemed out of place for a mentor. So I continued with the dungeon, pulling one pack at a time. When they'd pull an extra pack I'd just pretend not to notice. I won't turn this dungeon around but like hell am I tanking their nonsense.

So it really does go both ways. Mentors are getting a lot of crap right now and people forget that they're members of the same community. Are there people who probably shouldn't have the crown? Yeah. Supposedly there's a reporting process for un-mentoring someone who's unsuitable. But there are d-bags everywhere. Crowned and uncrowned.

[Hasrat]

Im sorry, but the whole "im new to tanking this dungeon" is no excuse for pulling one group at a time ever. A level 60 tank should have developed these "mass pulling" habits sometime between tanking 2.0-3.0.

I sort of disagree trash mobs are trash mobs, at 60 you should be used to doing fast/decent sized pulls.

The problem with this sentiment is that, if things were actually meant/designed for mass pulling, they'd all just be grouped together to begin with. Big pulls is great, sure, more efficient, etc, etc, but every player is entirely free to play to their own style, and it's a bit of a dick move to expect/force players not comfortable with that to just suck it up to please (the collective) you. Can you really not see how toxic it is to say, "This is how we expect everyone to play the game at this point; get good or get out."?

Spamming "pull all" accomplishes nothing. Maybe the mentor could've accomplished more by actually encouraging and educating to that end. Be positive about it and you might actually get a new mass pull tank. Be a little htcib like OP mentor, and you could very well end up with one less tank in the game.

[Bacent]

What sucks is that people can kick you just because your 'playstyle' might be slower than what they demand. If anything you could have reported them for spamming 'pull all' as well as trying to force their playstyle on you.

I've been tanking for a long while, since 2.0-2.1 and when I'm new to any place, I always do slow pulls because I don't know what's there. I feel safe if I do it with 1-2 friends, since many of them have a healer at 60 and are willing to back me up when I'm uncomfortable (Thanks again you guys~).

Hell what's really bad is the fact that they weren't even trying to ask if you wanted any tips/heads up on the dungeon. What's the damn point of anyone unlocking the mentor symbol if they do nothing to help people learn the game.

Let someone warm up to a dungeon before forcing your BS 'GOTA GO FAST' mentality on others.

[Pells]

Nope that is a poor excuse you start speed running/mass pulling large packs at 50. Like I said though it is on the healer if they can cope or not. Although if the tank said "would you mind if I gradually increase my pull size as we went through". This way at least I would see they are trying and would be prepared for any errors.

Why would you start speed running any dungeon when you don't know where it's safe to stop?

[Pells]

Just enough time for a Swiftcast > Cleric > Gravity > Cleric > Essential dignity on tank :P

Cleric's has a 5 second cooldown. It doesn't matter if you've got swiftcast running to instantly cast gravity. You're still stuck in clerics for roughly two GCD.

[RubyCirha]

As a mentor myself I'm sorry this took place this iratates me i feel we should be held a countable for our actions more so then normal players for this verry reason being a mentor should not be some sort of status symbol it should be reserved to those that actualy help others again I'm sorry this happend to you but sadly the prerequisites to being a mentor are pretty simple to acomplished that and there's a mount locked behind the system so that means people just do it for that and don't do anything to help the new players

[Maero]

One has to firstly understand how easily they made it for players to get Mentor status, many are unfit to be Mentors and not all but some just use the status for their own advantages.
I think SE tried to implement it with good intentions but like everything else, there are always people that ruin it for others.
Do not let it discourage you OP, just practice and find a good group of friends, people can be jerks in game.