Got kicked from The Aetherochemical Research Facility by mentor

[Ghishlain]

Thank you for the support. I never got kicked before in dungeon or trials. This was the first time I got kicked so it was a bit surprising and depressing at the same time.

The most important lesson to take in this as there are players that offer advice, are friendly, and make great party members; there are also players who are rude, disrespectful, and selfish.

It does suck but this is an MMO and we have to take the good with the bad. Just keep your head up, take a small break if you need to in order to collect yourself and continue to have fun!

[Mwynn]

Spamming domination/shadows is a big deal ?

As a Lv.60 Fresh Tank you probably sit on iLv.142-145, pulling the entire first Trash Groups until the Barrier comes up even hurts a Tank being synced down to iLv.180.

Using no Defensive Cooldowns at that Point, well, ya, good luck as a Healer, you can't contribute to AoE Damage that Trash Group down.

One who has done the Relic in HW, espescially the 240 Umbrite / Sand Step should know, that enabling Cleric Stance as a Healer can cause havoc on the entire first Pull in ARF...
If not, totally destroying the Tank in a matter of 4-5 Seconds...

[Azper]

Another one of these topics. Just going to point out it takes two for the kick to go through, so at least one other person agreed in your dismissal. A difference in playstyle is apparently an acceptable reason to kick according to SE, so just cut your losses and move on.

And I'm not sure where or when FFXIV got its award as "The MMO with the nicest players," but it's just as prone to jerks as any other.

Welcome to the internet.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

If not, totally destroying the Tank in a matter of 4-5 Seconds...

Just enough time for a Swiftcast > Cleric > Gravity > Cleric > Essential dignity on tank :P

[AkashiXI]

I'm torn on these threads. On one side, it's great to see our community rally behind a new player and support them, on the other it creates this weird mob mentality that X is bad, Y is good. I hate to be that guy, but we only know one side of the story: the OP. It is so easy to spin a story to make it seem like you were completely in the right, but unless there are screenshots or a video.... were you? Were you communicating with your group, did you tell your first group you wanted to pull slow, or did they ask and you didn't respond? You said your second group didn't tell you mechanics and kicked you after the wipe... what? What happened in between? I don't want to sound like an apologist, I just have a hard time getting behind anything without any evidence.

[programcanaan]

It's a little too easy for people to get voted out of duties. Light parties should need 3/3 votes and full take 5/7. I feel like it'd be a bit less common to see stories like this.

[AmalonStar]

Unfortunately as probably many have already said the aetherial research facility drops a lot of lore tombs which you need tons of when doing the anima relic so ppl like to speed run that one.

A good portion of 'mentors' only became one for various or multiple reasons, they either wanted the status symbol of the crown or the mounts or because they believe they're better than everyone else. The real mentors do tend to not stick out like the bad ones do and a bunch of them like myself have their crowns turned off because of a few reasons like they don't like to stick out with it or newer players shy away from them due to bad experiences with 'mentors'

If you ever have trouble like you had with this dungeon again I would try putting up a party finder and mention that you're a first timer and that there'll be a bonus and ppl will join to help you clear it.

[jameseoakes]

Sad when you read things like this and shows why this community struggles to get enough tanks and why the mentor system is so discredited.
To Kragon, don't get dishearten, normally people are quite understanding to new players most of the time.

[Llus]

This dungeon is mandatory to complete the heavensward MSQ so I queued for it. First time doing this dungeon. During the dungeon run a mentor told 'pull all'. But I took it slow and steady. He repeatedly spam 'pull all' and then when we reach the first boss the mentor told 'I don't want to be rude but...' and then I got kicked from the dungeon. So I queued for a second time. Luckily I am a tank so I got instant group. This time the run went ok and then when we reach the first boss I said 'I am new to this dungeon... any tactics for this boss?' but nobody said anything including the mentor dragoon. I pulled the boss and sadly we wiped and then I got vote kicked again.

I was very depressed by all these. I thought the FFXIV community are friendly people. I gave one last try and queued again. Surprisingly this time the run went very smoothly and the group was very friendly.

But all these left a very bad taste in my mouth. Is being a new player in mmorpgs a crime nowadays?

They wouldn't have had to vote kick me, I'd have dropped right then and taken the penalty. Any time I'm running a new dungeon and especially if I'm at min gear level, I'll take my time to see how badly the mobs hit and how well the healer can keep up. This usually starts out as: pull first small group, burn - ok; how'd that go? Pull 2 groups on the next pull; still good? Ok, let's see how speed run full-mob pull looks - ... ooooh shiiiiit! pls god no! If things are looking good, healer's doing a good job; mobs aren't hitting that hard I'll pull a lot more - but any time it's a new dungeon (or new to me), I have to gauge how much I can pull without causing a wipe.


Unfortunately, the player base has been deteriorating since before HW came out and you're getting a ton of entitled players that only think "me first" and don't even care to look at what the other people are wearing or care if you're new.

[ToasterMan]

This is why DPS ques are so long. Sadly they never seem to learn.