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  1. #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I hope you guys dont mind that I did quotet some of your comments. I do not intend to involve you guys, so let me know and I will remove them.
    Haha no problem. I feel honored to be mentioned. Its just sad that people always fall back to the "just stop playing the game" as soon as you have more than one complain. If I hate the game so much that I would just stop I would not take my time to posts in this forum I would just drop it and go on. There is still enough good things in this game to keep me playing but at the same time there a more and more things that dont go down a good road imo. Maybe I am much more easily unimpressed by those things since I am not really a "true" Final Fantasy Fan. I only played one other game next to this (that lots of fans likes to hate ;P) so maybe I am often way more critical of these things.

    I was really hyped for HW and yet I somehow dont feel the same hype again. The trailer was cool and all but the information itself was not. I can understand that they wont show every bit of information right now but still we barely know anything at all (minus swimming and maybe the look of some landscapes). Why not show a detailed way how the two new jobs work? Why not at least say that you plan to increase the inventory with X amount and if they manage till release maybe it will get more. I mean they do need to have some numbers right now since the expansion is not that far away yet somehow they just throw some sentences at us without any real meat behind it and hope that its enough for people to already order the new expansion.

    Edit: I have a good friend ingame that played every FF game available, plans to get the FF7 collectors edition and often buys any merchandise that has ingame items in them. His opinion of Yoshida and FF14 really kinda gets worse with some decisions and even though he is such a fan he really starts to feel angry. We are often discussing some decisions in this game asking why this was done this way and how it would get better and you kinda can feel his rising frustration.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 02-24-2017 at 10:09 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  2. #212
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I was really hyped for HW and yet I somehow dont feel the same hype again. The trailer was cool and all but the information itself was not. I can understand that they wont show every bit of information right now but still we barely know anything at all (minus swimming and maybe the look of some landscapes). Why not show a detailled way how the two new jobs work? Why not at least say that you plan to increase the inventory with X amount and if they manage till release maybe it will get more. I mean they do need to have some numbers right now since the expansion is not that far away yet somehow they just throw some sentences at us without any real meat behind it and hope that its enough for people to already order the new expansion.
    Right there with you, maybe its from years of seeing things like in HW where things werent entirely explained enough or the explaination left hype (MCH gonna use gadgets and attatchments and turrets = gauss barrel.) And its because of this misleading in the past that I feel like too much iimportant stuff is left off. Mainly the new jobs in more detail, or even touching more on the combat system. Sure RDM looks great, what kind of utility does it have? SAM gonna use animation lock or cast times for those big strikes? Sometimes feel like details are left out because then theyd get scrutinized by the community, which might be rightfully so.
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 02-24-2017 at 10:15 PM.

  3. #213
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    0 or 1, I didn't expect much other than new areas, more story, new gorgeous music, more jobs and so on.
    We haven't heard much about the revamped battle system / custom UIs, so there's nothing to be excited / disappointed about.

    The only thing that bothers me slightly is that one of the new DPS jobs is asian-themed and the other one a caster. But that's all.
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  4. #214
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Its just sad that people always fall back to the "just stop playing the game" as soon as you have more than one complain.
    Not going so far as "stop playing the game", there are some complaints that I feel are out of place.

    The first is the "lack of information". It was the same for Heavensward. DRK, MCH and AST were still a mystery at FanFest, and we had more and more info as the release date approached. They have to give us something for the next months to keep us interested. The video presenting the new skills was only released a month before HW.

    The second is the "shifted focus". For me, I'd say it was a pretty good twist, since not a lot of people actually saw it coming, and it opens a lot of zones to explore, with very different designs. And, why do people already claim that Ala Mhigo was basically a bait-and-switch ? We know nothing about how the MSQ will unfold, and, looking back at HW, Nidhogg was beaten half-way through 3.0, to make room for Thordan and the Heaven's Ward, hinting at the Warring Triad and introducing the Warriors Of Darkness (Saddly spoiled by a poorly edited trailer)
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 02-24-2017 at 10:40 PM.

  5. #215
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    1, the update looks enormous, one of the bigger mmo expansions I've seen, and one that doubles this already large game world?, not only that but with the story quality of the game I can't wait to see where it takes us, and the journey ahead... not to mention, return of red mage, and possibility of blitzball in the future!
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    At this topic it will definitely be a 10.
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  7. #217
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Not going so far as "stop playing the game", there are some complaints that I feel are out of place.
    To be fair, HW was the first expansion and the hype was legit either way, since that we thought we would get something new entirely because of the expansion nature of the game itself. But in the end, the 3 classes are carbon copies of current ones and everything they said was pretty much redundant: the expansion was basically ARR 2.0 with a new coat of paint, copying the same exact methods of loot and even parts of relic grind (heck, atma 2.0 at 3.1 says enough) so while the complaints might feel out of place, I think there's enough basis to be legitimately concerned about SB.

    And while I can't talk about the story perspective (I don't like it, so I skip it), I think it's less about "bait and switch" and more like "more japanese stuff because japanese stuff is cool!". For all I can speculate, maybe they really did want to put Ala Mhigo but to attract more fans and more "japan aficionados" from the west, they went full Eastern-look, and considering the number of subs is decreasing this new direction might lead to new players wanting to try, just because of that "amazing japanese scenario" and playing as the cool Samurai Dude. We already have a Ninja and not many MMORPGS allow you to be either a Samurai or a Ninja, at least not directly one - like the Assassin in Blade and Soul who's clearly a ninja, but I forgot about the Elin Ninjas in TERA (Instead of Kunoichi!)

    Heck I'm guilty for this too back in Mists of Pandaria, since that I LOVE Chinese settings and I love my Pandaren monk with a passion (without mentioning saving coins for buying Mei's Outfit in Overwatch and playing Wizard in Diablo 3 because she's from Xiansai - basically the China of Diablo).

    But again this is all speculation so for all I know, I might be totally wrong...it's a nice theory if anything!
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 02-25-2017 at 01:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    while I can't talk about the story perspective (I don't like it, so I skip it), I think it's less about "bait and switch" and more like "more japanese stuff because japanese stuff is cool!". For all I can speculate, maybe they really did want to put Ala Mhigo
    They are putting Ala Mhigo. It'll be at least 50% of the content for the expansion, they've stated.

    Personally, Ala Mhigo bores me. Interactions with the NPCs do not generally leave me sympathetic to their cause. I always figured we'd -have- to free Ala Mhigo eventually, so when SE made it clear we were going that direction I rolled my eyes and just prepared to focus on other parts of the expansion to enjoy. I'm rather glad they're including Doma, as I have at least a marginal interest in that because the Doman Refugee NPCs are all really interesting characters, and I have sympathy for them. My guess is we go to Ala Mhigo -and- Doma because Garlemald conscripts soldiers from one country and sends it to another to prevent rebellion. Soldiers in Ala Mhigo to Doma, Soldiers in Doma to Ala Mhigo, etc... So, this seems like the best chance to destabilize and liberate both regions. Its clever.

    My only concern would be that neither nation might get the necessary exposure and development the deserve though. Rather than an expansion focusing on each, its one focusing on both. I'm also a little worried SE might run out of future content for future expansions. There's still Garlemald itself, Radz-at-han, also Meracydia and the New World to the West, but after that, what would be left?
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  9. #219
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    They are putting Ala Mhigo. It'll be at least 50% of the content for the expansion, they've stated..
    Kudos then, I had no idea (more like, I couldn't care less at this point in time). Although I can't deny the focus shown is toward Doma though, especially with the Samurai. I mean I went and searched about Ala Mhigo and it seems to be a mountain area or sorts (cause Highlanders, so I imagine something like Scotland?), and I assume Red Mage is somewhat related to this (if not, then "shrug"), but it's kinda clear that they wanted to attract more with the japanese look thanks to the new housing areas (it was advertised afterall) and the Samurai.

    But I dunno personally: what's the greatness of 2 large areas if there's nothing to do in them? If they won't fix this, might as well have hub worlds then.
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  10. #220
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    Kudos then, I had no idea (more like, I couldn't care less at this point in time). Although I can't deny the focus shown is toward Doma though, especially with the Samurai. I mean I went and searched about Ala Mhigo and it seems to be a mountain area or sorts, and I assume Red Mage is somewhat related to this (if not, then "shrug"), but it's kinda clear that they wanted to attract more with the japanese look thanks to the new housing areas (it was advertised afterall) and the Samurai.

    But I dunno personally: what's the greatness of 2 large areas if there's nothing to do in them? If they won't fix this, might as well have hub worlds then.
    Ala Mhigo has Monk. Red Mage is more likely to be linked to a different nation. My guess is Sharlayan, based on various theories flying around. That said, hopefully we'll find more reasons to be in the new zones than just gathering, hunts, and fate farming/leveling. We'll need to wait and see.
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