Got kicked from The Aetherochemical Research Facility by mentor

[Watachy]

I feel we need to tolerate a certain degree of difference in playstyle

This argument applies for both sides.
If you don't try things you won't be able to know what gonna happen.

If everyone is begging you to do massive pulls, at least try, to do it, if you don't that's just being selfish.

[Vidu]

If everyone is begging you to do massive pulls, at least try, to do it, if you don't that's just being selfish.

I think you have forgotten what it means to be new in a dungeon as a fresh level 60 character... We're used to speedrunning and masspulling everything by now, yes - but do you really believe thats something someone has to learn during their FIRST attempt in their FIRST level 60 dungeon when they want to finish the story? Cut that guy some slack, most of us prefer faster runs, but thats what the bonus is for - you take 5 minutes longer, you get 50 extra-tomes. Seems pretty fair to me. Learning how to masspull will happen soon enough - when they're more familiar with the dungeon, all skills of their class (including the level 60 one they most likely just got...) and with better gear.

[Watachy]

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That's the technical part where i do agree with you.

But comon, like giving a try to what your party member will be bad.
As i already said i won't blame if we wipe and come back to little pulls, at least you tried to please your party members, that's the social part of an MMO...

[Vidu]

at least you tried to please your party members, that's the social part of an MMO...

Seems as if we have slightly different views about what "social" means - for me that means communication and being vocal about things, not trying my hardest to please some random people in a dungeon...
They asked if they could go faster, OP said its their first time and they'd like to go slower - thats a totally legit descision (tanking ARF sucks btw - one of the worst dungeons to tank).
Can you kick for difference in playstyle? Yes, you can.
Was this okay - specially from a mentor? Nah, dont think so - in this scenario its a dickmove and the only bright side is, that they're hurt themselves more than the OP by acting like jerks - waiting for a new tank (or a whole new queue), losing the bonus and potentially discouraging a new player, even a tank!, from continuing the game...

[Lexia]

Seems as if we have slightly different views about what "social" means - for me that means communication and being vocal about things, not trying my hardest to please some random people in a dungeon...

Just using your message as a reference what I'm going to say.

People should try and do their best job and not just slack off, but why should anyone try to bend over backwards to please some smuck (the mentor think they all pro) in DF that might not ever see again? Did people learn not learn how to split the difference and compromise? Something like ok you want smaller pulls but could you pull more then 3 mobs?

[Evumeimei]

But comon, like giving a try to what your party member will be bad.
As i already said i won't blame if we wipe and come back to little pulls, at least you tried to please your party members, that's the social part of an MMO...

I can totally see how that ends... With them being kicked for causing a wipe (maybe you wouldn't but I bet other people would). >__>

I go at whatever pace the tank / party decides, mostly because I really don't care lol. As a healer I can adjust to whatever is needed in the dungeon (picking up slack DPS, more intensive healing, etc...).

[Istaru]

This argument applies for both sides.
If you don't try things you won't be able to know what gonna happen.

If everyone is begging you to do massive pulls, at least try, to do it, if you don't that's just being selfish.

As someone who heals while DPSing, tanks and plays BRD, BLM and SMN as her main DPSroles, I adore large pulls and small pulls lull me to sleep.

But, I don't think they have to do big pulls, even if requested. They only need to maintain hate on what they pull to meet their minimum requirements. Just like healers don't have to DPS, and DPS don't have to use AoErotations. It is a great bonus when they do, but I don't think it is reason enough to vote kick someone.

I disagree that they are being selfish by not giving in to what extra demands are being placed on them. Frankly, the people making the demands for extra and kicking them for not meeting them are the selfish people.