New Housing Zone + Moving existing house

[Lexia]

Those that have a house didn't have the option in the past, nor the information that those without one currently have regarding the new areas.

While we didn't know the details it has been known for some time that they were going to be adding a new housing area.

[Dustytome]

Lets look at it in real life: You get a house, maybe even built it from the ground. For some reasons you will have to move or want to move into another house. Most time you will not get the same amount of money back that you put into this. Our neighbor sold their older house some time ago. The price was really cheap for a house but in our region its not that normal to sell such houses fast. Also if you have a customized made kitchen for example you often leave it behind, even having it included in the house price and you will have to buy yourself a new one.

It's not real life though. You're comparing an apple to a boat. This is a game where the rules of this world's reality are set at the whim of a group of people in Japan. This is digital data and the information as to what is located where can be changed in a split second by making a few changes in a database. Look at all the stuff your character is hauling around in their bags? Some people are hauling around roofs, walls, multiple ceiling fans, etc. In a world where you can carry what is essentially an entire housing district in your pockets it's completely conceivable to be able to move one house and everything in it.

[worldofneil]

I fully expect the moving tool to relinquish my old house (giving me nothing back) and charge me the cost of the new property (and permit too if it's building the house as well). So yes I'll have lost the cost of the original house, but that's exactly the same as if I relinquished it and purchased a new one. There's just unlikely to be any risk with the moving tool as it's going to do at least that much in one go.

We shouldn't get any money at all back from our old house, we don't when we relinquish it, why should we here? The only time we get money back is if it's auto demolished and that money is compensation for having lost the house (and temporary at that since you only have 35 days to pick it up...). Unless SE adds in a way to sell/refund an existing house back to the system, I can't see the moving system giving us any money for it either.

[Altena]

But that is only if the transfer happens during the maintenance before the plots open. If it happens during/after there is an even chance for everyone to get a plot and that is fair.

Can only speculate what would happen but no, it flat out won't happen during a maintanence.
We don't have a weekly maintanence in this game. If the house moving feature were to be implemented, it would mean people would "move" then have to wait for the next patch to actually move into their new house. Here is what will likely happen - you "move" your house, all of your furnishings will get placed on an NPC, the old house will get destroyed, and you will likely go through the same steps we went through when we bought one - buy a housing permit, erect the house and retrieve our items from the NPC.

If this kind of feature was restricted to the first maintanence only - then it's not a very good "feature".. More so a one-time option at the start of SB. It is extremely unlikely that it will work like that.

While we didn't know the details it has been known for some time that they were going to be adding a new housing area.

We were told / hinted that it would be Ishgardian housing. That never happened. So many of us assumed it wasn't happening.
The theme is the important part here - had we known of the theme - I wouldn't have bought a house and I am sure plenty of others wouldn't have either.

[Domeric]

4. What kind of fee can we expect to pay if we wish to transfer? Full price of a new plot? A partial cost depending on the size of the estate?



We have paid our money. Others haven't. It is unfair to expect current estate owners to pay double the cost of those who will only have to buy it once.

We have not had full use of the gil we spent on the house because the house is meant to last until you quit.

You don't get special privileges for having beaten other people to purchasing a home beforehand.

[Lexia]

We were told / hinted that it would be Ishgardian housing. That never happened. So many of us assumed it wasn't happening.
The theme is the important part here - had we known of the theme - I wouldn't have bought a house and I am sure plenty of others wouldn't have either.

That might work on smaller servers but the larger servers since Housing so broken a person lot of times will take what they can get or not get one at all.

[Stormrider]

This thread kind of amuses me. So SE can pay to send a team of people to Germany to ego stroke. But they can not definitively explain housing and how features will work. They didn't even have the nerve to say we will go over in detail at X date. probably because they don't even have the feature working right yet.

[Shougun]

This thread kind of amuses me. So SE can pay to send a team of people to Germany to ego stroke. But they can not definitively explain housing and how features will work. They didn't even have the nerve to say we will go over in detail at X date. probably because they don't even have the feature working right yet.

More likely because they want to hold onto information and release it through interviews and live letters. I do think they could time their live letters and fan fests a little better though, pretty regular that people are expecting a lot but only get a little form the fest - perhaps if possible they should bring the info releases closer to the fests. Delay the fests till later, or give out info sooner. Unfortunately I'm sure their marketing group is playing a game that we're not really caring to be mindful of, give us the candy now and instantly produce more candy tomorrow! .

Anyway, it's possible the feature is broke and they're borrowing time, but I personally don't think that is the case, and imagine that as it is released with expansion that like all the other information related to expansion it'll be released over time. Like last expansion too lol.

Basically please look forward to it, Soon (TM). :P

I wonder to myself if the housing issues would have existed if they didn't release the feature so quickly, perhaps a more cost effective system was created to get it out to players sooner as they had really wanted it. Even if we didn't get instanced houses but like cross server wards, we'd probably greatly alleviate our issue (and add in account limitations). There are small servers that barely use all the wards, just make all the housing areas shared. ("just" lol, its not that simple but perhaps one of the most cost effective short term solutions?).

[Senn]

I'm ok with a housing transfer fee, but I don't think the fee should cost the base price of a house. This is assuming you can only transfer to plots that correspond with your current house size.

[Stormrider]

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See I find you and others on this forum confusing, not to be mean. But literally have they done in housing that makes you believe that they have a grasp of the situation?


OK let us say open world housing to start is ok. You design the system and go to finance and say I need X dollars to do this. They laugh at you. Why do you continue. Some assets must have been usable for instance. No one can say they didn't have an instance system in place ie. inn rooms are from 1.0. So kind of shameful but lets give them a little bit of a pass.

Now we get to the second step. You want to release more houses they are full. Wait we have currently coded it into the very structure of the game we need to add to every world every time. Red Flag they already new server population.

Now we get to third step. Can't afford more servers and can't allocate resources efficiently to cover deficiencies. Now we don't say wait lets lock this down before this gets out of control. We take more cash from players and allow more players on worlds we can't help. What about friends? Build it into the damn recruit a friend and automatically let them onto the server. They have to pay right now to get on on top.

So now we get to the point where internet is, "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." (or general trollishness). So now do they think hey we need to add some features into the game to try to even out the situation? Nope lets just throw what little money and time we have down the same hole.

Yet here you and others are saying it should be ok. They should have their act together. It will work out. It won't create a system where the general population has less houses. I don't see it. Lets not even get to running out we all know that's coming, Balmung doesn't even have apartments. People are charging for those. The first exploit how fast will the developers act? How long will it take them to respond? I am sure past the benefit of the doubt. I am way past the blind faith.