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  1. #151
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    Lewtskie's Avatar
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Dots
    You are trying to imply a lot of things, and I mean a LOT. Not to mention missing the big point here. If you play whatever you play solely because of its role then that's fine for you, but for many it does boil down to how the Job actually functions. WHM and SCH have very similar mechanics with elements differentiating them. They are not exactly the same, but you cannot look at them and say they do have similar base playstyle. Its when you then incorporate unique elements into the Job then that balance can become an issue.

    And no, BRD and BLM AoE are different. When taking out mobs you don't just spam the love out of your AoE as BRD, that's a very quick way to lose TP and be useless.

    How a Job operates on a mechanical level is a huge point for players. Just as the aesthetic appeal either draws in or deters people. Someone who hates the long combo chain of a BLM and ammo/resource management of a SMN then has had no option for a magic-aesthetic up til now. How RDM functions may now offer them that choice. Same goes for the fighter-type STR Jobs. Up til now they have had only two options. That is why they were given the priority.

    A Tank and Healer could have been added but they seem to be in a rut with what to do with both roles now. Splitting the roles into much more defined main/off causes a problem in pug content where the queues cannot always ensure you will get a main and not an off, or two mains or two offs. Could also be they just dont have anything on the board that's mechanically apart from what we already have. Maybe the balance topic is just covering up the fact they are drawing blanks on what to do next, or maybe they actually have a plan but entails needing to work on several factors for future releases.
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  2. #152
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    XSamsaraLotusX's Avatar
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    Samsara Lotus
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 60
    They didnt add newctank or heaer becouse they did the most retarded thing ever.
    They look what people play more. Like you dont ned to even look it up to know peole play more dps. Hell there 7 dps.just from that there be more dps players.
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  3. #153
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    DuskTS's Avatar
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    Cupid Duskysquirrel
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Too lazy and not merchant enough to make a profit off of selling MSQ runs.
    Embarassing for a Lalafell really.
    However, I'm pretty sure I'll be bullied into helping all my friends queue for things when I'm trying to make my own progress.
    Such is Cupid life (¡~¡)
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  4. #154
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    Belhi's Avatar
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    A Tank and Healer could have been added but they seem to be in a rut with what to do with both roles now. Splitting the roles into much more defined main/off causes a problem in pug content where the queues cannot always ensure you will get a main and not an off, or two mains or two offs. Could also be they just dont have anything on the board that's mechanically apart from what we already have. Maybe the balance topic is just covering up the fact they are drawing blanks on what to do next, or maybe they actually have a plan but entails needing to work on several factors for future releases.
    I'm really sure what your trying to say there. If they are at such a loose end, that makes things even worse. Tanks and healers are already divided into mains and offs. WHM literally cant fit the role of a mitigation healers and PLDs are never chosen as Off tanks. In both positions, these jobs are considered inferior for that role. This isn't about dividing them up. There were already divided up. It only became notable when the 3rd Jobs were introduced and suddenly they had a job in each role which had to compete with to other Jobs which filled very different positions in a party. This is why they gave AST the whole stance thing.

    To change this setup they would either have to homogenise the Jobs so no job is better at anything than any other of the jobs in the role or completely change how the meta operates. The first is probably bad from a design point of view and the second I think is unrealistic to expect.

    One of the reasons I find their attempts to reassure Tanks and healers that they won't be left out so annoying is because I am not convinced they have come to grips with this issue and vague promises feel empty. Regardless, it doesn't make the whole 'dps has more sub roles' both any less lame and short sighted or frankly irrelevant. It won't make disappointed or upset Tank/Healers any less disappointed or upset and it certainly won't make a difference in queue times and people charging for tanking/healing which is what this thread is about.
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  5. #155
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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 90
    I'd rather prefer waiting 1 hour dungeon queues than paying any single gill to any tank/healer.
    I can wait.
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  6. #156
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    XSamsaraLotusX's Avatar
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    Samsara Lotus
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Good . Not all cant play 24/7 and for me its good.
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  7. #157
    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Nanapie Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 28
    Quote Originally Posted by XSamsaraLotusX View Post
    Good . Not all cant play 24/7 and for me its good.
    Reading your last few posts I'm starting to believe you are mocking and being condescending to people, as a lot of your posts are sarcastic responses without any real proof reading before you post EVEN with a built in spell checker.

    Ok after looking over your character information I definitely know you are trolling and stirring stuff up, I WOULD NEVER hire you to tank for me if I wasn't a tank myself... Shame on you.
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    Last edited by Kathryn; 02-23-2017 at 06:53 PM.

  8. #158
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    Minnel Mimi
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    I'd rather prefer waiting 1 hour dungeon queues than paying any single gill to any tank/healer.
    I can wait.
    Why wait? Just get some friends... unless they only play dps?
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  9. #159
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    The community has always been greedy and not helpfull
    So instead of trying to not make it even worse its better just to become apart of that too?
    I mean: I dont charge for Ex Kills, I dont sell houses (and its punishable by the GMs) and if someone has all the mats for the crafting and I can do it I will do it for free.

    I am just really thankful that I have good friends that I will run this thing with and I wont point out fingers to anyone doing it either but I will have my opinion of these people. Oh and I am quite sure that SE really does not care about this. They will see that the dungeons are run normal thanks to those sells and thus believe that their thinking is right.
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    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  10. #160
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    BorisDaBlade's Avatar
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    Boris Taglia
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Your best bet to make gil selling your time is during pre release. Lots of dedicated players trying to push the new roles to 70.
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