New Housing Zone + Moving existing house

[Shougun]

An official response on this would be nice, so people who do wish to move to the new area can plan accordingly

Yes please~ I'm sure they'll be saving this sort of stuff for live letters and future information releases (not to be given out on forum due to request, I imagine) so hopefully we can make sure this question gets asked or at least a beautiful CM reads it.

I'm afraid they'll get asked something that only asks a quarter of what we want to know lol. Or they'll go over some details but not quite all. We need lawyer contract details! The fate of our gils rely on it :3

I think at the moment what's really being wondered is:

1. Will the transfer system be released at the same time of Shirogane, if not how soon after housing release?
2. Is the system for both personal and FC? If only FC (as wording was used) will personal housing receive this feature later?
3. Of course, how will the feature function - if not specifically mentioned during feature explanation, can you go up or down a plot size while moving FC?
4. What kind of fee can we expect to pay if we wish to transfer? Full price of a new plot? A partial cost depending on the size of the estate? [Altena edit ]

Related, but not on transfer:
1. Will players who do not own the expansion be able to teleport to the expansion housing area if their FC is in that area? Similarly, can you have a personal house there if you don't own the expansion? (Basically, is Shirogane expansion restricted?).

(did I miss something?)

Boop

Since it was part of your first question, I was just listening to the wording and I believe this is a quite close paraphrase of the transfer feature:
"When the time is right we will open up plot purchasing in Shirogane, as well as implement accompanying moving feature to make it easier for your FC to move to this area"

If the tool is not to transfer cross areas I'll be dumb, because I don't understand how it couldn't be for that explicit purpose lol. Although again, the size up size down thing was never mentioned at all - just a personal side result I'd like to see from the system (if not at release, later).

[Domeric]

It literally doesn't matter if you bought your house without knowing Shirogane was coming. You bought your house. By the very rules of fairness that you implement, you have the money or you don't. That's what makes it fair. You got use out of your house. You will continue to get use out of your house. It wasn't money wasted.

Now people who have the money will buy houses in Shirogane much how you did in the Lavender Beds.

[Altena]

(did I miss something?)

4. What kind of fee can we expect to pay if we wish to transfer? Full price of a new plot? A partial cost depending on the size of the estate?

It literally doesn't matter if you bought your house without knowing Shirogane was coming. You bought your house. By the very rules of fairness that you implement, you have the money or you don't. That's what makes it fair. You got use out of your house. You will continue to get use out of your house. It wasn't money wasted.

Now people who have the money will buy houses in Shirogane much how you did in the Lavender Beds.

We have paid our money. Others haven't. It is unfair to expect current estate owners to pay double the cost of those who will only have to buy it once.

We have not had full use of the gil we spent on the house because the house is meant to last until you quit.

[Suki-]

For me, personally, it is not a money issue. I don't view the purchase of my plot (not even a month ago) a waste, as I have had fun decorating and doing whatever else with it

It's the security of a transfer option to a different plot/area. If there are fees or you have to pay the full price then so be it, am not expecting it to be free. It's just in case that if you do relinquish your plot and you get a DC/too slow/something unexpected happens on your way to purchase you're not stuck in limbo with no home to go back to if they're all bought out quickly ^^

And the 'giving' to a friend argument in some posts... the friends are homeless too so what's the difference between a friend or a stranger getting the plot? Someone without a home is getting one so...

[Altena]

For me, personally, it is not a money issue. I don't view the purchase of my plot (not even a month ago) a waste, as I have had fun decorating and doing whatever else with it

It's the security of a transfer option to a different plot/area. If there are fees or you have to pay the full price then so be it, am not expecting it to be free. It's just in case that if you do relinquish your plot and you get a DC/too slow/something unexpected happens on your way to purchase you're not stuck in limbo with no home to go back to if they're all bought out quickly ^^

And the 'giving' to a friend argument in some posts... the friends are homeless too so what's the difference between a friend or a stranger getting the plot? Someone without a home is getting one so...

I wish I could share that feeling.

I saved the gil for a long time in order to get a L plot. I held out on multiple waves of new wards because I didn't want to settle for a S or M.
To expect people who saved for a long time to toss in another life-savings because they released new housing later down the line that better suit your tastes (that you didn't have the option, or had no hint as to what the new option would even be at the time). The concept that people think "current estate owners should be locked out of the new housing zone" is even remotely fair just completely baffles me.

Though I do agree with what you said and I have said it myself in an earlier post - it's not just the gil, but it's the security.
Having to relinquish a house in order to have access to the new zone puts you at negative the cost of your old house, nothing to show for it, simply for a "chance" at getting one in the new zones. You effectively risk it all, have come out with a negative cost, and aren't even gaurenteed to get your old house back if you can't get a new one.

Most actual estate owners aren't ar...eholes or anything. It's not like any of us are out there to prevent people from getting into the housing feature. We simply want access to the new option just like everyone else - without tossing the cost of our original house on the ground to get no return.

[Suki-]

Snippity Snip

Probably because I only have a small, 3.6ish isn't too bad to dish out again. But yes I have to agree especially for a large that is quite a sum to come up with. And for someone who is not an end game crafter/gatherer I cringe at how long that will take to accumulate. A relocation fee would be far more appropriate rather than the full cost of a plot ^^

Most actual estate owners aren't ar...eholes or anything. It's not like any of us are out there to prevent people from getting into the housing feature.

What, so we're not all real estate tycoons playing monopoly with the housing market with a pool full of gil in the basement?

[Kouren]

As someone who bought a L plot prior to the 3.3 pricing adjustment, I dread having to do it again. Particularly when it seems unreasonable to expect people who already have houses to pay double. We had no indication at the time there would ever be new zones.

(I love my actual plot, but I hate the design of the house itself. If I can find another zone that fits my taste better, I'd be all over it.)

But then, I've never really trusted SE to make rational decisions when it comes to housing, so I've opted to wait and see with low expectations. Pretty much everything else I'd want to say has already been addressed by Altena.

[Evergrey]

The easiest way this would work imo is that you get a choice prior to the new housing plots opening if you want to move or not. If you want to move you are queued up to automaticly move the house under the maintenance before the plots open, but you don't get to choose where your house ends up. If you own, let's say Plot 16, you move to plot 16 in the new area. If that plot isn't in a location you truely wished for you have to sell your old house and move in manually.

[Suki-]

The easiest way this would work imo is that you get a choice prior to the new housing plots opening if you want to move or not. If you want to move you are queued up to automaticly move the house under the maintenance before the plots open, but you don't get to choose where your house ends up. If you own, let's say Plot 16, you move to plot 16 in the new area. If that plot isn't in a location you truely wished for you have to sell your old house and move in manually.

There's a few flaws to that tho. It'll limit the amount of people who can transfer to 12 per plot#, not everyone wants to move but what happens if say 13 with the same number all want to relocate? Does the 13th person get 'sorry but too bad you were slow.' ? So there's that and then the grades of plots are different in all areas so some will get an upgrade and some will be downgraded.

Although it is a nice idea to opt in beforehand

[Altena]

The easiest way this would work imo is that you get a choice prior to the new housing plots opening if you want to move or not. If you want to move you are queued up to automaticly move the house under the maintenance before the plots open, but you don't get to choose where your house ends up. If you own, let's say Plot 16, you move to plot 16 in the new area. If that plot isn't in a location you truely wished for you have to sell your old house and move in manually.

Eh? Seems like a weird ultimatum. "You can move but you don't get to choose where!"

Or you could just let movers have the same chance as everyone else that wish to buy a plot in the new ward....