Should healers now be allowed to play how they choose to play?

[Feyona]

I wouldn't expect a new group learning a10s or any other savage content to be 100%... I wouldn't expect the tanks to know the fight well enough not to die to tankbusters. I wouldn't expect DPS to not die to mechanics and I wouldn't expect a healer to know when they can DPS and when they need to heal. If the entire content of your OP is to allow you room to learn a fight before optimizing for healing and DPS; then by all means do so.

You contradicted yoursef. Firstly, you say a healers role is to dps and heal, but not in that content I mentioned. So which content am I a dps healer and which content arnt I ? And how is the comunity going to know which is which ? They will expect it in all content wont they? New content, savage, primals, whatever.So this is the point of my entire post, not what you put in your post that patronizingly sums up my mindset, thank you very much but you are wrong. And to Shurrikan, everyone knows when you have time right? Well, according to these posts Im going to be kicked for not dpsing if I dont have time

[Shurrikhan]

You contradicted yoursef. Firstly, you say a healers role is to dps and heal, but not in that content I mentioned. So which content am I a dps healer and which content aren't I?

You are when you have time to be. You are not when you do not have time to be.

If you will have mana enough over the course of the fight to use a stronger heal, allowing yourself time to DPS, you should do that, and then you should DPS in the time you gained yourself, especially when that GCD would be worth more than others (a Bio II, rather than a Boil).

[Bourne_Endeavor]

You contradicted yoursef. Firstly, you say a healers role is to dps and heal, but not in that content I mentioned. So which content am I a dps healer and which content arnt I ? And how is the comunity going to know which is which ? They will expect it in all content wont they? New content, savage, primals, whatever.So this is the point of my entire post, not what you put in your post that patronizingly sums up my mindset, thank you very much but you are wrong.

You should be DPSing in all content whenever you are not required to heal. There is no content in this entire game-- Savage included-- where you will not have any downtime to at least throw up dots. The sole exception is progression. If you are new to something and announce it, people are far less judgmental since they aren't expecting you to know the fight. That being said, if you start seeing yourself standing around or topping people off despite them taking minimal damage, you aren't playing healer well if you don't correct that on future attempts. Whether the group you get cares or not will always been a crap shoot but I fail to see why the inclusion of two new DPS changes the DPS healer philosophy. From my own perspective, if I notice my co-healer not putting on Cleric, I go into full DPS mode. What tends to irk me is when the "I only want to heal!" healers suddenly can't handle that responsibly whereas the more versatile ones can go full healer mode and need very little assistance if any at all. Perhaps I am wrong to assume but it does make me question whether they want to heal or just want an excuse to do less work.

[Llus]

You contradicted yoursef. Firstly, you say a healers role is to dps and heal, but not in that content I mentioned. So which content am I a dps healer and which content arnt I ? And how is the comunity going to know which is which ? They will expect it in all content wont they? New content, savage, primals, whatever.So this is the point of my entire post, not what you put in your post that patronizingly sums up my mindset, thank you very much but you are wrong.

This topic is not new, but in light of the proposed changes, like two more dps classes which all the dps has to choose from, could we now leave healers alone to play as healers, and those who want to dps, dps? Thinking that many people would like to heal as a chosen playstyle. The feedback I have received before is that its not playing to 'optimal efficiency', but this is not a workplace it is where people come to enjoy themselves, not be coerced into doing a role that they didnt choose- dps as healer. Most dps did not choose to heal, and have a monopoly of different playstyles to choose from, on the other hand healers are being made to dps, to sort of make up for dps defiency, Then I see a question asking for harder content, just stop healer dps and the content will be harder to clear. Healers that want to dps go dps,leave others to heal or tank if thats what they enjoy.

Again, I refer you to your OP. The entirety of your post can be summed up as follows: "Since there are going to be more DPS classes to choose from, can I be a heal-only healer?" And to sum up the responses: Absolutely, but don't expect people to carry you through ANY content. When you are learning content, you can expect people to make allowances; but if you are spending the majority of the time simply overhealing to look busy or standing around doing nothing expect people to get upset about it. If you chose to be a healer because you thought it would be an easy and lazy job; you chose the wrong job.

[Feyona]

Again, I refer you to your OP. The entirety of your post can be summed up as follows: "Since there are going to be more DPS classes to choose from, can I be a heal-only healer?" And to sum up the responses: Absolutely, but don't expect people to carry you through ANY content. When you are learning content, you can expect people to make allowances; but if you are spending the majority of the time simply overhealing to look busy or standing around doing nothing expect people to get upset about it. If you chose to be a healer because you thought it would be an easy and lazy job; you chose the wrong job.

Carry? You are wrong again a healer that dpses is carrying the dps not the other way round and this is factual, not illusionary, and wanting to enjoy healing is a valid reason not to want to dps. It is also debateable that healing is an easy job, because some players cant or dont like healing.

[bounddreamer]

Carry? You are wrong again a healer that dpses is carrying the dps not the other way round and this is factual, not illusionary, and wanting to enjoy healing is a valid reason not to want to dps. It is also debateable that healing is an easy job, because some players cant or dont like healing.

I disagree with this, too. I usually queue with FC mates for Expert. We are all max geared or very close to it. When I heal with them, the dps of both tank and dps are very high. We burn through everything. They take very little damage so healing requirements are minimal. My dps (which has about 90% uptime) is an added bonus. I'm not carrying anyone. It means I don't stand idle while my party members are busy dismantling mobs.

Again, no one's asking healers NOT to heal if that's the primary need. The expectation is for healers not to stand idle (or literally jump around in circles, as I've seen many times) when healing is not needed.