Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Nalyna]

Tank DCed at the start of the instance and we 3-man'd it with a topaz carbuncle. We did 90% of the dungeon before a tank finally joined for the last fight.

[bardaboo]

Now, take the typical stacking mechanic, which says "stack so that this one person doesn't die", and maybe reverse it, so that "stack so that WE ALL don't die". The people who do stack don't get hurt, while the ones who don't stack, end up taking damage or dying. The strategy to deal with the mechanic doesn't change - just stack - but the consequences of not doing it correctly are far harsher, and it gives people a lot more incentive to do it right. I know I'm not as good with stacking mechanics as I should be, and I'd probably be much more enthusiastic about learning and sticking to them if I didn't get killed when I actually do it right.

So one guy gets a marker and if he wants he can run off and kill everyone because noone can stack on him? Mmmmm how about no

[Mysterysword]

So one guy gets a marker and if he wants he can run off and kill everyone because noone can stack on him? Mmmmm how about no

Doesn't have to work that way. Doesn't even need to have 1 person marked at all. There can just be a huge general warning like the boss glowing or something, for people to stack, maybe in a certain spot. So the people who stack are fine, and the idiot who runs off just dies. If someone chooses to run off and die, that's their problem, everyone else can still stack together and live.

The way stacking mechanics work right now, I don't even want to stack properly because if there aren't enough people stacking with me, I'll die anyway, for doing the mechanic right.

Back on topic, a few weeks ago, Leveling roulette dropped me as BLM, into Cutter's Cry. The tank was a lvl 39 PLD, the healer was an unsynced AST, and a lvl 38 DRG.

Now, at lvl 39, this PLD didn't have Shield Oath, so that was understandable. Less understandable was their complete refusal to use Flash, which resulted in the DRG and me doing their job for them. Note that this DRG was also relatively underequipped, wearing a mix of 30-35 gear, IIRC. Meanwhile, I was synced to 40 and limited only by the ilvl sync as well. But whatever this DRG was doing, they were really good and ended up ripping aggro of the first boss off the PLD before I could. I wanted to tell them to use Elusive Jump, but... the DRG was not the problem here. Especially considering the PLD never once used Rage of Halone. Not that I realised this at the time.

On the way to the second boss, the PLD started complaining that keeping aggro off a BLM is impossible. So I guess I and every other tank who has ever successfully managed to keep aggro from a BLM in their party, should be celebrating that we've achieved the impossible.

Seriously, if you refuse to use Flash or RoH, I'm fairly certain that the jobs are not the problem here. I tried explaining this to the PLD, but of course they would have none of this. During the second boss (which is really hellish when your healer doesn't know what their cleanse spell is or when to use it), I watched the boss's debuffs and never once saw the RoH debuff. Once again, the DRG stepped up to the plate and tanked the hell out of it.

On the way to the third boss, I started questioning why this PLD was doing things the way they did. In response, they blew up at me, claiming that "your problem is you suck at BLM" and that "you obviously main tank, well I main DPS". Which was adorable. What does it say about you if you can't keep aggro off someone who supposedly sucks at DPS?

Ultimately, it was just a horrible run where nobody learnt anything important, so a prime example of why a lot of people just never bother anymore.

[Faliandra]

I decide to lvl my drg in a DF dungeon. Worst mistake ever.

In the first party I had an AST who refused to play cards because "I play how I want" and "they aren't needed". I will not even get more into details here as it was simply too ridiculous. I got kicked after a while when I said that I would play "my way" too then (which was auto-atk only and no more evading AoEs xD)


Second party had an AST complaining about low dps(yeah other dps was doing a lot less than me). But didn't touch cleric stance at all to do any dps. When i said that he could also help dpsing I got a "lal if I wanted to dps, I'd play a mnk"


Idk man. ASTs are starting to terrify me.
All ASTs I meet are special little snowflakes -_-

[EdwinLi]

Random person: "Samurai will ***** so bad in Stormblood"

Me: "Why?"

Random Person: "Because they are not Tank Jobs. The Weebs ruined the Samurai! We could of had them in actual Samurai Armor and more historically accurate."

Me: "You do know this is a fantasy game right? Also this version of the Samurai is one version used in Japanese Fantasy games. Besides we get Auron Armor set for Samurai and he was the Samurai of FFX"

Random person: "F*** fantasy and F**** Auron. He was a just a emo guy that weebs thought was cool. Real Samurai fight their enemies head on. Not stab them in the back like a coward."

Me:" Your vision of samurai is the Romanticised version. It was common for people to romanticise the samurai just like Knights when it came to their way of life. In reality during war the Samurai were more about killing their enemies over one on one duels for honor in the middle of a battlefield. So Samurai stabbing their enemies in the back in a battlefield during war did happen."

Other Person: " Can we talk about something else because I don't think you are going anywhere with this guy."

Me: "Ok. Did you know historically real Ninjas actually used Cats to tell the time of day by looking into the Cat's eye."

Random Person: "You're **** with me right?"

Me: " This is real. It is called Cat's eye Sundial. The fully round eye means twilight during daybreak and sunset, near-oval shape at 8:00 AM and 4:00 PM, more near-oval at 10:00 AM and 2:00 PM, and needle like at 12:00 noon."

Other Person: "I looked it up and holy **** it is historical fact about real ninjas."

Random Person: "We learn something new everyday"

AFK person: "Hey I'm back. Sorry about that so what I miss?"

Me: "Here something else historical about real Ninjas. Female Ninjas, Kunoichi, chose to hide in plain sight and one of their commonly used disguise was a prostitute."

AFK person: "uhh what did I just walked into?"

Me: "Oh you're back."

[Meillquei]

Decided to do my Crystal Tower runs for the week.

In Syrcus Tower, we had one or two DPS who were constantly complaining that our overall DPS was too low. It was clear that we had quite a few people who had never done it before. I think there was one person who was trying to constructively give advice for the fights, but it was drowned out by the complainers. A lot of the group wasn't following mechanics. We didn't wipe, but it was aggravating.

The complainers eventually simmered down towards the end of the raid and we cleared.

Then I did World of Darkness. I don't know what it is about this place, but it always seems to bring out the worst in people.

We had 3-4 people in one alliance that decided to act like jerks the entire run. Constantly yelling at everyone else because of any mistake we made. They started saying things like "Look at all these adds. It's obvious a bunch of people are being carried".
"Look at how long it took for the flying mango to die". "Flying mango is the worst boss because no one does mechanics correctly." Saying how Cerberus will be fun because no one will follow mechanics.

Then the last boss. This is where it got really bad. The raid failed at a few mechanics and we ended up wiping once because of it. Queue an expletive filled rant about how we can't follow mechanics. We tried again. We were still failing at mechanics, and it was a close call, but we pulled through on the second try with most of the raid dead.

One of these guys made an expletive filled comment about bad players making this raid awful before leaving.

I was about ready to give up for the night after that, but I decided to do Labyrinth. I had over an hour wait in queue so I hoped it would be a good group.

I zoned in and chat was filled with everyone saying hello and exchanging pleasant comments. Finally, a group of nice people!

Cleared Labyrinth with no problems. Everyone followed mechanics. People were giving constructive advice. It was a great run

I feel so bad for all these new players who had to put up with the toxic people in the first two runs. It was awful.

[Kahnom]

Historic Lesson

Awesome,this is a good way to shut up the complaints.
Even you're not doing on purpose,Li-san.

[bardaboo]

Doesn't have to work that way. Doesn't even need to have 1 person marked at all. There can just be a huge general warning like the boss glowing or something, for people to stack, maybe in a certain spot. So the people who stack are fine, and the idiot who runs off just dies. If someone chooses to run off and die, that's their problem, everyone else can still stack together and live.

There are quite a few of those doughnut aoes. Large aoe safe hole in the middle. First boss of void ark for example. One of the bosses in Dun Scathe as well.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

There are quite a few of those doughnut aoes. Large aoe safe hole in the middle. First boss of void ark for example. One of the bosses in Dun Scathe as well.

Chimera Dragon Voice...

[Spiroglyph]

I always end up tanking SOMETHING in Dun Scaith, as a BLM. Always, no exception, and annoyingly enough it's always after I pop something (be it Ley Lines or Enochian), and then have to stay in ARR rotation after rez, as if my DPS wasn't low enough because of weakness...

I need quelling on a shorter cooldown, please devs Q_Q

It's all rather annoying because I honestly do like DS, it's a nice place. Just, OTs, please, can you go ahead and tank things?...