On a scale of 1 - 10, how disappointed are you so far with Stormblood news?

[ErryK]

There is a reason why many BRDS in raids stance dance, you literally gain more dps by having WM on and off throughout the whole fight.

Well, Wide Volley was always useless unless enemies were not clustered to benefit using Quick Nock. Also, I believe the stance dancing is called class development, as I said, the literal only changes were removal of autoattacks (I didn't say this before but I'm saying it now), cast bars and the other two skills being clunky due to cast times. There was also the balance issue of ranged physical doing equal DPS to BLM and Melee while not having to sit still. Having a cast bar, makes you think, that's what it does. If you're complaining about it making you think and plan your movements and actions, then you just want the game simplified...

Did you just compare apples and oranges? Just because something does work somewhere else, doesnt mean it only has to work on FFXIV as well. And also, I never said that they should completely overwork the formula of FFXIV. Im just saying, they can add or improve things. You are eating a big mac once in awhile, while its formula may stay for years. But a MMO.. You are playing it for years even and that's the difference.

And there are people who don't play XIV everyday? So how is it apples and oranges?

Yes there is. We are talking about same things for the next 2 years, I wanted to mention again. 2 years of doing tomestone farming and Primals for mounts, weapons and gear. For me, I dont want to do the same thing I did for last 4 years.

There's a simple answer to that, if you do not like it, then do not involve yourself with something you do not like. At least post an alternative idea instead of "I don't want tomestone farming, also what's feedback? Certainly just a bunch of complaints! "

You already saying it, they will remain empty. And why? Because they are not properly bound into the story. A MMO world should touch and bind someone's experience and joy for traveling. Why even wasting resources on them and not giving us a cutscenes into a immediate boss battle?!

Have you played HW even? You mean the point where we fought Charibert, Regula van Hydrus, etc. are not existent? Also, this is a game that runs off instances, if you want seamless, find an MMO that does that or suggest it, don't complain and whine on the forums without being constructive.

Okay. So like 4 people in a server? Nope, Im not gonna make massive crap on them. Im gonna point it out, that nobody really needs to go to those places, which results in complete waste which is actually very sad. AND I never said Azys La or Ishgard are nonsene or unnecessary for the MSQ and should be crapped. Stop putting wrong words in my mouth.

You said they're empty. I extrapolated from your post that if a map is empty, it shouldn't even exist, I mean, you're pointing out that it's a complete waste already, are these not the words you posted?

A better character creation could help actually that many NPC's look way more unique to the game than just copies from the character creator?? Building a proper bond to story npc's should be a must in every JRPG. Did you ever check how the Scions looked in ARR? Yda is just a female blond Hyur in low level gear?! And you want to tell me our cutscenes are okay right now? Did you ever watch cutscenes in 1.X?! They're impressive.

So you want to go back to 1.x now? I mean, we had 2 years of MSQ with characters, and then the same in HW, so if you did not get attached but someone else did:

(Ysayle, Haurchefant, Papalymo anyone?)

Again, stop putting words which I never said. I never said the OP said this or said that. I said, the name of the thread is called "Disappointment of Stormblood News". Whatever that OP said, is his/her opinion. Just because I tried to state mine however ends up as a complain. I wonder why? The answer is simple. There are people like you who are just ignorant.

I'm ignorant for pointing out your lack of substance, and backing up of things that are apparently fact ingame? You sure like perceiving things as a pessimist... I'm being real, you're complaining about things like maps being empty when this is the same with things like BnS and GW2? I never went back to places like Queensdale or Diessa Plateau after hitting Lv80. Some people might due to the fact that they need something there, oh that sounds like Azys Lla in this situation.

That is their opinion, you also have your opinion, but there is nothing stopping me from using logic and reasoning to find out how complaints = constructive feedback "Oh, this place is empty, make it lively!" "Ok, how?" "I don't know, just do it!" What kind of reasoning is that? Lmao. If I am ignorant, I would not be trying to reason with someone who is literally complaining for the sake of complaining, you are literally giving 0 examples to back up your claim besides possibly your point on gear progression, but that is one single thing as far as an expansion is concerned.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Well, Wide Volley was always useless unless enemies were not clustered to benefit using Quick Nock. Also, I believe the stance dancing is called class development, as I said, the literal only changes were removal of autoattacks (I didn't say this before but I'm saying it now), cast bars and the other two skills being clunky due to cast times. There was also the balance issue of ranged physical doing equal DPS to BLM and Melee while not having to sit still. Having a cast bar, makes you think, that's what it does. If you're complaining about it making you think and plan your movements and actions, then you just want the game simplified...

I literally pointed out that Volley had a usage in 2.0 which means you didn't even bother to read it, so everything after your initial sentence is completely null in my eyes as you have no idea what you're talking about.

[xbahax92]

alot of stuff I really dont want to respond to

I give you a point. I did not choose my words wisely when I wrote that "massive text". When I meant they result in waste, its not that waste which you would think of as in "lets just remove it or spare our resources on". I meant more likely it is sad that just few people go visit those places or (after gaining the ability) just fly through.
And playing FFXIV, you dont have to play it every day. Yet you subscribe for it every month to play it as much as your free time allows. I have a lot of feedback and ideas to give, but this is not the thread for it (nobody did ask me yet atleast). And yes I did enjoy and play HW, yet I cannot say I was on a journey nor adventour. I still know how the MSQ just let me go through Coerthas WH into Dravanian Forelands and actually from there immediatly into Churning Mists. What did really happen there? Do you remember any awesome cutscene which will stay in your mind forever? I dont. I dont know how you are being real while you just imagining how other people are acting. I never compared FFXIV to GW2 or BnS. I never said "I dont know, just do it". You could asked what I would do or what for ideas I have. But all you did til now is having prejudices. Are you even noticing what you are writing most of the time?

I dont know how many times I have to keep repeating myself, but this thread is called "how do you feel after recent Stormblood NEWS". And I did. Some people have the same opinion like me. And I do appreciate the opposites also. I never said SB is going to be bad just because we lack things. I just say that it is sad that we still keep many QoL things like it is. It would be nice to improve old features and expand them. But then again there are people who just give a shit about others opinions and tell them to not complain and salt around. Did you ever give a thought to ask what for ideas or thoughts they have regarding their "complains"? I bet, no.

So you want to go back to 1.x now?

Nah. Not needed with people like you who just dont want to change anything at all, we better stay and sit where we are for the next 10 years. Did you contribute any useful ideas and feedback, I wonder. Judging others seems so easy, right?

[ErryK]

Nah. Not needed with people like you who just dont want to change anything at all, we better stay and sit where we are for the next 10 years.

Hey, remember that one time you told me not to put words in other people's mouths?

Did you contribute any useful ideas and feedback, I wonder. Judging others seems so easy, right?

Well, judging people based off their words and lack of constructive feedback, it's easy to discern whether a person really cares or doesn't care, and obviously, you don't care if all you're saying is "This place is empty, fix it." "We did this two years ago under an old name, fix it."

I cannot say I was on a journey nor adventour.

Maybe... just maybe XIV is not the game for you. I don't know... just an idea?

In any case, I'm done. There's a clear lack of appreciation from you for the work the dev team has put into the game.

[xbahax92]

Maybe... just maybe XIV is not the game for you. I don't know... just an idea?

Looks like many people who share the same opinion should do the same then. Let's just stop playing.

Oh and maybe... just maybe discussion are not something for you. I don't know... just an idea?

In any case, Im done trying to convince you from other perspectives as well. I do get your points. I do understand that writing down something without proper examples and ideas comes off as a complain. But you are wrong. Im playing FFXIV now since 4 years. I saw enough to say that there are things to be improved.

Just to end this nonsense with you, here some other opinions I really appreciate.

So yes I'm so so sorry if I'm not exactly excited and I "don't enjoy the game" right now but considering that I came from 2.0, I loved 2.0 despite its limitations (it was a RELAUNCH, I can forgive them for that, but I can't do the same for an EXPANSION)) [...] Afterall, they won't change the formula unless it's failing right?

Well if you don't want to ask for changes, that's cool. But the rest of us are going to keep doing it, ok?

For the amount that tickets were and people buying the livestream, I have to agree. Most were left with little more than even more questions, didnt really seem to explain any of the details most of us were or are concerned with, Heck, before NIN came out we got way more from that 14 hour live stream(watching it in actual combat) It would have been nice to get more clarification on both the system and how exactly the jobs will work or even a little more

The reason why my hype level is 0 and thus I am not looking that much forward to the expansion is, that they wrote some points like more inventory and yet explained none in detail. Yes things can change till the expansion but couldnt they at least tell us the minimum amount we can expect and maybe even more? We dont even know how much they will increase.

I hope you guys dont mind that I did quotet some of your comments. I do not intend to involve you guys, so let me know and I will remove them.

[Alleo]

I hope you guys dont mind that I did quotet some of your comments. I do not intend to involve you guys, so let me know and I will remove them.

Haha no problem. I feel honored to be mentioned. Its just sad that people always fall back to the "just stop playing the game" as soon as you have more than one complain. If I hate the game so much that I would just stop I would not take my time to posts in this forum I would just drop it and go on. There is still enough good things in this game to keep me playing but at the same time there a more and more things that dont go down a good road imo. Maybe I am much more easily unimpressed by those things since I am not really a "true" Final Fantasy Fan. I only played one other game next to this (that lots of fans likes to hate ;P) so maybe I am often way more critical of these things.

I was really hyped for HW and yet I somehow dont feel the same hype again. The trailer was cool and all but the information itself was not. I can understand that they wont show every bit of information right now but still we barely know anything at all (minus swimming and maybe the look of some landscapes). Why not show a detailed way how the two new jobs work? Why not at least say that you plan to increase the inventory with X amount and if they manage till release maybe it will get more. I mean they do need to have some numbers right now since the expansion is not that far away yet somehow they just throw some sentences at us without any real meat behind it and hope that its enough for people to already order the new expansion.

Edit: I have a good friend ingame that played every FF game available, plans to get the FF7 collectors edition and often buys any merchandise that has ingame items in them. His opinion of Yoshida and FF14 really kinda gets worse with some decisions and even though he is such a fan he really starts to feel angry. We are often discussing some decisions in this game asking why this was done this way and how it would get better and you kinda can feel his rising frustration.

[ADVSS]

I was really hyped for HW and yet I somehow dont feel the same hype again. The trailer was cool and all but the information itself was not. I can understand that they wont show every bit of information right now but still we barely know anything at all (minus swimming and maybe the look of some landscapes). Why not show a detailled way how the two new jobs work? Why not at least say that you plan to increase the inventory with X amount and if they manage till release maybe it will get more. I mean they do need to have some numbers right now since the expansion is not that far away yet somehow they just throw some sentences at us without any real meat behind it and hope that its enough for people to already order the new expansion.

Right there with you, maybe its from years of seeing things like in HW where things werent entirely explained enough or the explaination left hype (MCH gonna use gadgets and attatchments and turrets = gauss barrel.) And its because of this misleading in the past that I feel like too much iimportant stuff is left off. Mainly the new jobs in more detail, or even touching more on the combat system. Sure RDM looks great, what kind of utility does it have? SAM gonna use animation lock or cast times for those big strikes? Sometimes feel like details are left out because then theyd get scrutinized by the community, which might be rightfully so.

[SilkaN]

0 or 1, I didn't expect much other than new areas, more story, new gorgeous music, more jobs and so on.
We haven't heard much about the revamped battle system / custom UIs, so there's nothing to be excited / disappointed about.

The only thing that bothers me slightly is that one of the new DPS jobs is asian-themed and the other one a caster. But that's all.

[Reynhart]

Its just sad that people always fall back to the "just stop playing the game" as soon as you have more than one complain.

Not going so far as "stop playing the game", there are some complaints that I feel are out of place.

The first is the "lack of information". It was the same for Heavensward. DRK, MCH and AST were still a mystery at FanFest, and we had more and more info as the release date approached. They have to give us something for the next months to keep us interested. The video presenting the new skills was only released a month before HW.

The second is the "shifted focus". For me, I'd say it was a pretty good twist, since not a lot of people actually saw it coming, and it opens a lot of zones to explore, with very different designs. And, why do people already claim that Ala Mhigo was basically a bait-and-switch ? We know nothing about how the MSQ will unfold, and, looking back at HW, Nidhogg was beaten half-way through 3.0, to make room for Thordan and the Heaven's Ward, hinting at the Warring Triad and introducing the Warriors Of Darkness (Saddly spoiled by a poorly edited trailer)

[Voltyblast]

Not going so far as "stop playing the game", there are some complaints that I feel are out of place.

To be fair, HW was the first expansion and the hype was legit either way, since that we thought we would get something new entirely because of the expansion nature of the game itself. But in the end, the 3 classes are carbon copies of current ones and everything they said was pretty much redundant: the expansion was basically ARR 2.0 with a new coat of paint, copying the same exact methods of loot and even parts of relic grind (heck, atma 2.0 at 3.1 says enough) so while the complaints might feel out of place, I think there's enough basis to be legitimately concerned about SB.

And while I can't talk about the story perspective (I don't like it, so I skip it), I think it's less about "bait and switch" and more like "more japanese stuff because japanese stuff is cool!". For all I can speculate, maybe they really did want to put Ala Mhigo but to attract more fans and more "japan aficionados" from the west, they went full Eastern-look, and considering the number of subs is decreasing this new direction might lead to new players wanting to try, just because of that "amazing japanese scenario" and playing as the cool Samurai Dude. We already have a Ninja and not many MMORPGS allow you to be either a Samurai or a Ninja, at least not directly one - like the Assassin in Blade and Soul who's clearly a ninja, but I forgot about the Elin Ninjas in TERA (Instead of Kunoichi!)

Heck I'm guilty for this too back in Mists of Pandaria, since that I LOVE Chinese settings and I love my Pandaren monk with a passion (without mentioning saving coins for buying Mei's Outfit in Overwatch and playing Wizard in Diablo 3 because she's from Xiansai - basically the China of Diablo).

But again this is all speculation so for all I know, I might be totally wrong...it's a nice theory if anything!