Should healers now be allowed to play how they choose to play?

[Feyona]

A healer has 50 levels to practice switching stances less if you are a Whm. Yes you are right a healer shouldn't be made to, but the healer should be striving to whilst levelling and capable of it come 60.

Yes agree, this wasnt just meant to be about wether someone has the ability to dps as healer though, its more about playing a role because you enjoy the playstyle more. For example, some people just like to dps and some just like to heal.

[winsock]

with genuine respect why do you play healer if your dpsing 70% of the time?

By the same token:
In that 70%, what are you doing? If you're doing nothing 70% of the time, why do you play FFXIV?

I am genuinely curious how ppl justify this. When your options are:
A) deal damage
B) overheal
C) do nothing

Why pick B or C, when A is the only beneficial option to your group?

[Feyona]

Why do you play healer, standing around 70% of time doing nothing?

Question here: is removing paralysis from a blackmage considered "raising grp dps"? Because it's not healing. Not at all. So you are just raising the dps of the grp, which is not a healers job right?

lol no I never stand around doing nothing, that is perhaps one of the biggest mis representation, in these posts. What is missing here is that you cannot get through an instance without healing. So healing as a role is an essential part of the game, like it or not, I have healing spells, not just dps ones

[winsock]

lol no I never stand around doing nothing, that is perhaps one of the biggest mis representation, in these posts.

You've queued for a dungeon.
Your assigned party members are:
PLD, BLM, BRD

Scenario:
* During a fight, you've just finished casting a heal bringing the PLD to full HP.
* PLD uses HG
* You and the DPS are at full HP w/ stoneskin as your range is preventing you 3 from taking damage.

What action does your character take?

[Feyona]

By the same token:
In that 70%, what are you doing? If you're doing nothing 70% of the time, why do you play FFXIV?

I am genuinely curious how ppl justify this. When your options are:
A) deal damage
B) overheal
C) do nothing

Why pick B or C, when A is the only beneficial option to your group?

The only time that ahealer has nothing to do is in low level instances, or if your with another healer that wants to solo heal, In which case its not necessary for me to be there so I may as well go heal somewhere else and you replace me with a dps. I only go in low lvl instances to help someone these days, Cos I already got animas on all three of my healers.._call me lazy if you like

[seekified]

The only time that ahealer has nothing to do is in low level instances, or if your with another healer that wants to solo heal,

I beg to differ. If I do an expert roulette and throw an Adlo and an Eye for an Eye on a tank who has a basic understanding of defensive cooldowns, he'll be fine with that for quite a while before I need to do anything else to keep him alive because of the faerie healing. A WHM doing a Stoneskin and a Divine Seal'd Regen should get the same result, as should an AST taking any of the two approaches. Fulltime healing really isn't necessary in a lot of places, which is why we choose to use the free time for dealing damage.

[CafPow]

Except the endgame savage mode ore the last 2 bosses of dun scaith, you always have spare time.

So, answer the question? What do you do?

What should a healer, who want's to do khloes album and goes level roulette, landing in sastasha normal do with all his spare time?
-heal something else, you said. Der is nothing.
-take an additional DPS with em, you said. This can only be done in premades

So, go on, answer the question? What are you doing?
a) deal damage
b) overheal
c) do nothing

What are you doing?

PS: are the cards from AST part of the healers job? It's a damage issue right? So... not your job?

Pls understand my p.o.v. i can't understand how one could defend the "i only heal" thingy. Impossible for me to do.

Oh and PPS: i'm not trying to attack you, you can play how you want to do, your gaming experience should be fine for you, and no one else. ^^

[winsock]

The only time that ahealer has nothing to do is in low level instances,

Not true. I took the liberty of finding a video for you:
https://youtu.be/FXDtKz7dIyM
At around 1:10 this healer casts gravity, and continue to til around 1:20-1:25ish.

What actions would your healer be taking in this 10-15 second period?

[Limonia]

The only time that ahealer has nothing to do is in low level instances, or if your with another healer that wants to solo heal, In which case its not necessary for me to be there so I may as well go heal somewhere else and you replace me with a dps.

Do you never do anything like a lvl 60 roulette or Void Ark or similar stuff?
I was helping my boyfriend to farm something from Antitower / Lost City of Amdapor (hard) recently and went as WHM. In all three boss fights, when the tank is NOT severely undergeared, I maybe had to cast a Regen once or twice and even that wasn't really necessary all the time. I guess it would really have been possible without a healer, but in DF you MUST have a healer. So instead of just standing there, I did a lot of dps to make the run faster and to be fair to the others who were using useful abilities all the time.
When we did Void Ark as to healers, me as WHM and he as SCH, we both didn't have to heal once. The fairy did all the work. Granted, our tank wasn't the main tank, but if he were, I would have cast a Regen on him here and there and that would surely have been enough.

See, healing required in this game is already so low. But if you outgear the content enough, it gets close to zero. Would you really only stand there and do nothing in such a case?

I like healing too and I have no problem with having heal more. But this game is designed with a lot of downtime between heals.



Also, about the term "playstyle"... Are you really fine with it when the BLM wants to be an ice mage? When the MNK only wants to do punches and no kicks? Or when the DRG wants to play as a ranged fighter? I'd rather have them use all their abilities instead of just 20-50% of them. I'm casual, so I can't expect people to play perfectly. But I can expect them to at least put some effort into it.

[SachiBear]

The only time that ahealer has nothing to do is in low level instances, or if your with another healer that wants to solo heal, In which case its not necessary for me to be there so I may as well go heal somewhere else and you replace me with a dps. I only go in low lvl instances to help someone these days, Cos I already got animas on all three of my healers

Hmm...

Well, like I said before, I'm not going to force someone to change how they play, but why wouldn't you do something when there is nothing to heal or fix? I can't see how someone wouldn't want to keep themselves busy. Sure healer dps isn't required, but why would you rather stand there than dish out some damage? In endgame dungeons, as someone said, once you outgear them, the healing is very minimal. A shield or a DS'ed regen and asylum can keep the tank up for nearly the whole pull.

I really hope I don't sound like I'm biting right now, but tone is so hard to convey on the internet ;/