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  1. #11
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    ADVSS's Avatar
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I dont think its that op honestly, not for a long cooldown or really anything. its not like adlo has a stoneskin timer on it, so chances are in most cases itll be broken on the tank and time out on the dps before its fully utilized.

    what is it, like 20 sec timer at the most?
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  2. #12
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Would you be that stupid to pop it 30 seconds before a tank burster? When you want to help a tank with an Adlo it is meant to be casted when you see the tank burster cast time (usually the tank burster takes more time than Adlo cast time, unless it has no visible cast time, but then it has a visible animation that has a long wind up time too).
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Would you be that stupid to pop it 30 seconds before a tank burster? When you want to help a tank with an Adlo it is meant to be casted when you see the tank burster cast time (usually the tank burster takes more time than Adlo cast time, unless it has no visible cast time, but then it has a visible animation that has a long wind up time too).
    nah but if the ability had a long cd timer like was suggested it would work on the first tank buster but maybe not be available for the second, third etc depending on the fight, so yeah, about as op as using a tank ultimate for a hard hit. Then never being able to do that again for the rest of the fight - I dont see it being that overpowered in such a case
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  4. #14
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    Yep that's what i meant. It would be OP with a low cooldown like 2 minutes, but if it would be 5 minutes like benediction then it would be more balanced since you would only be able to use it once in a fight (maybe 2 if the fight is long enough)
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I want to say yes, give me an on-demand crit Adlo every 5 minutes, but I also do think it's already a little bit too powerful on a job that already is stupidly powerful. What a dilemma.
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    Boko Toloko
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Honestlly, I'm all in for a BIG ability with large CD. Though I don't find any problem with the overall performance, I think we lack something of the sort.

    I thought a bit on this and got this idea of an ability (most probably broken but meh, its not like YoshiP is going to put it):

    Exaltation (180s-300s):
    Temporarily transforms your fairy into a evolved state

    Eos --> Seraph
    Angel Prayer
    While in this state, Eos casts Angel Prayer instead of Embrace, which heals nearby allies. It would be some kind of AoE heal pulse way more effective than Whispering Wind.

    Selene ---> Valkyria/Archangel/Siren (either of these is fine)
    Angelical Judgment
    While in this state, Selene will cast Angel Judgement on an enemiy and enemies nearby it (instead of casting Embrace on allies) damaging them and causing them to receive increased damage from all sources. Could be some sort of mini-Holy/mini-Gravity spam.
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    Last edited by BokoToloko; 02-21-2017 at 09:24 PM.

  7. #17
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BokoToloko View Post
    Honestlly, I'm all in for a BIG ability with large CD. Though I don't find any problem with the overall performance, I think we lack something of the sort.

    I though on the big CD and got this idea (most probably broken but meh, its not like YoshiP is going to put it):

    Exaltation (180s-300s):
    Temporarily transforms your fairy into a evolved state

    Eos --> Seraph
    Angel Prayer
    While in this state, Eos casts Angel Prayer instead of Embrace, which heals nearby allies. It would be some kind of AoE heal pulse way more effective than Whispering Wind.

    Selene ---> Valkyria/Archangel/Siren (either of these is fine)
    Angelical Judgment
    While in this state, Selene will cast Angel Judgement on an enemiy and enemies nearby it (instead of casting Embrace on allies) damaging them and causing them to receive increased damage from all sources. Could be some sort of mini-Holy/mini-Gravity spam.
    Love this post. I really enjoy thinking outside the box from silly to "hey, we should talk about this one."

    I feel what you've mentioned is something that would actually happen in 4.0 to keep SCH healing interesting. A heal pulse, while technically a regen can be given to Eos and encourage the 'place' command. She pulses every tick, a low potency heal, healing anyone in her vicinity

    I really don't like the idea of fairies causing damage, but would like the idea of Selene increasing raid DPS, just have to give her AoE physical/magical vulnerability up abilities on the opposition and the SCH can choose based on the party composition.

    Yup. I am all about making SCH even more powerful
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  8. #18
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    Lynk Lloyd
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I like the idea of Selene causing damage, she's more an offensive fairy anyway. I want sch's personnal dps to be even greater :3
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  9. #19
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    S'zendaril Tia
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 96
    Nice idea, but I think you're thinking a little too big for a tactically minded class.

    Instead of forcing a crit, it should act as a literal reverse Deployment.

    Heat Treatment/Morale Tactics depending on your definition of Galvanize
    The next spell cast that applies Galvanize will have doubled shield strength, but will do no healing and cannot crit. Overwrites Emergency Tactics. And vice versa.
    90 second cooldown.

    That lets you trade the chance for a full Adlo crit (900p * crit strength effective hit points), for the ability to force a 600p shield before a pull or Deployment, or for some free DPS time.
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  10. #20
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BokoToloko View Post
    Honestlly,
    Temporarily transforms your fairy into a evolved state

    Eos --> Seraph
    Angel Prayer
    While in this state, Eos casts Angel Prayer instead of Embrace, which heals nearby allies. It would be some kind of AoE heal pulse way more effective than Whispering Wind.
    yeah sch is a little lacking in the aoe heals department i was actually thinking of a new ability for eos like a cooldown thatd make her heal multiple/if not all party members at once for a short period of time like you suggested a pulse like a healing turret seems cool too, though im a little worried about scholars ;promoting' their heal turrets
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