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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    You do you. I believe most players are like water and follow the path of least resistance which in turn breeds terrible players which perpetuates the problem. There's nothing wrong with having reasonable expectations beyond flat out bad for your fellow player. SE can't mold a community quite like a community itself- your apathy is sure to raise zero critical self thought on improving those who may need it. But at least they didn't get your com.
    Nobody ever told me to DPS. I just do it because I can and I don't really like being in whatever dungeon longer than I have to after I've done it a few times. All of my MMO experience suggests the majority of people are like me and are sufficiently self-interested to contribute what they feel they can, even if they don't really want to do it per se, simply to not spend more time than necessary in content they've done a dozen times. It seems extraordinarily unlikely that we need people actively trying to police randoms and generally injecting negativity and stress because they feel they need to be the boss and micromanage everyone else in the dungeon. Part of random groups is accepting that you don't control everything and you can't be sure what you'll get. You just need to roll with the punches and do what you can to contribute to the success of the group on an individual level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saito_S View Post
    No I wouldn't, but then I also wouldn't kick a healer who isn't DPS'ing, at least, not without asking them about it and seeing what (if anything) they said in reply. If they were healing well, and weren't an arse, I might just let the lack of DPS slide. It'd take more than that for me to want to kick someone - at least, more than JUST the fact that they aren't DPS'ing. Especially if we're in an easy dungeon. That's just me - I tend to view kicking as something that should only be done in specific circumstances. That doesn't change my stance on healer DPS'ing in general. By the same token, kicking someone because they are doing DPS as a healer - if they are successfully balancing DPS and keeping the party healthy, using whatever buffs are needed, etc. - in other words kicking them SOLELY because they are DPS'ing and you don't think healers should DPS, makes you a grade-A douchebag.
    Yeah, I mean I look for any excuse not to kick someone, unless they're being a jerk. In general I just don't concern myself with what other people are doing. I actually do agree that healers should DPS if they can find time to safely do so and everyone should generally do what they can to contribute, even if it isn't in line with the strictest interpretation of their role title. Where I seem to disagree with a lot of people in this thread is that I'm just not the least bit interested in trying to punish them if they don't play the way I want them too. I know personally there are times I don't DPS as a healer because I'm just too tired to care and I'm sure other people are the same way or simply aren't comfortable doing it or whatever. I let it slide and just hope for that courtesy in return if I need it later down the road.
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