Is DPS'ing as a Healer Vote Kickable?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Which is a GOOD THING. Tanks find ways to push DPS in raids by having complex stance swapping, but not stance swapping often doesn't make you a bad tank, not using your DPS skills and cooldowns does, healers going above and beyond to squeeze a bit more out of their rotation is nothing new. Healers should still have more to do besides DPS when they aren't direct healing (even if it involves more healer mechanics).

Healers in FFXI were much more busy we had more buffs/debuffs/enhancements etc. In XI it was 1 healer managing 5 people and still the healer had time to throw out dps. One of the reasons some healers wont risk dpsing is the 5sec wait to switch back. Out of curiosity what else would you give them.

[Gemina]

... Healers shouldn't have to DPS because there should be more to do as a healer that isn't DPS. CURRENTLY yes, You should DPS as a healer, it is how you play your job. But most importantly is that you should be doing something on every cast, and because the healer requirement is so low. This is why you must fill those gaps with DPS

I agree with this 100%. Casters, including healers should follow the ABC rule, and the only way to comply with that is to cast offensive spells. Oddly enough, the healer that is expected to DPS the most, actually has the most to do outside of it. This healer being SCH. With shields, heals, fairy micro-management, and aetherflow management, this is one busy job, and if it wasn't for their fairies, they would have very little time to DPS.

Due to the current meta though, I am not sure if additional utility would even be welcome. Say healers could inflict things like physical/magical vulnerability down, or increase resistances to certain elements and physical damage, I am not even sure they would be worth the gcd. One time I mentioned giving WHMs an AoE cleanse, and most people said they can't even think of an instance where it would be useful. So I dunno.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

This healer being SCH. With shields, heals, fairy micro-management, and aetherflow management, this is one busy job, and if it wasn't for their fairies, they would have very little time to DPS.

Nope without the fairy you just described AST and we have time to dps.

[Lambdafish]

Due to the current meta though, I am not sure if additional utility would even be welcome. Say healers could inflict things like physical/magical vulnerability down, or increase resistances to certain elements and physical damage, I am not even sure they would be worth the gcd. One time I mentioned giving WHMs an AoE cleanse, and most people said they can't even think of an instance where it would be useful. So I dunno.

You could really lump PLD into this problem too. It has lots of utility which is great, but everyone is like "nah, DPS is better, learn to play without the utility" I feel like healer DPS needs to be in a way that enhances raid DPS (like balance).

[Schark]

I stopped healing in this game because of, in my opinion, how poorly designed it is. It's more hybrid than healer. Spending so much time DPSing, I figured it better to just switch to a full time DPSer with a better kit for the role.
The last census showed an increase in DPS players compared to a perfect ratio in previous censuses. I wouldn't be surprised if others felt the same way I do.

I'd love to heal but until fights bump up the healing game, I'll weather the DPS queues.

Make Healing Great Again!

[Gemina]

Nope without the fairy you just described AST and we have time to dps.

Heal with SCH without the fairy, and then let me know if you have time to DPS.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

But you said



So what about my $15? Is yours worth more than mine because you refuse to DPS but I prefer to DPS while also healing?

Also, that shot about it not being expected, that's cute.

See the "What about my sub fee?" argument goes both ways. Just because a player is in the minority regarding their play style doesn't make them wrong. When you use the duty finder to play with random people you are simultaneously agreeing to be grouped with others whose play styles may differ drastically from your own. If you don't like it then leave or kick them, but to rant about how stupid or bad they are is just selfish and very shortsighted.

[Yeol]

A healer should dps if they can.

Some situations will make it very hard to dps even if the healer is good.
- Under geared tank.
- Tank not using proper CDs.
- Party members not dodging AoE and dying.
- Taking too long to kill ads/bosses (Results in more damage taken and therefore more healing).

There are other reasons but this is what I've experienced while playing a healer.
So the performance of the party will affect on the healers dps.

(1) If you have a terrible party, the healer will be carrying you.
(2) If you have a great party and the healer is not dpsing then the healer is being carried by the party.

Sadly you can't do anything to fix (1) but in (2) you'll make party even greater by dpsing.

[Lambdafish]

See the "What about my sub fee?" argument goes both ways. Just because a player is in the minority regarding their play style doesn't make them wrong. When you use the duty finder to play with random people you are simultaneously agreeing to be grouped with others whose play styles may differ drastically from your own. If you don't like it then leave or kick them, but to rant about how stupid or bad they are is just selfish and very shortsighted.

Actually it doesn't go both ways, it is split 4 or 8 ways, its not about my sub fee versus yours, its about your $15 versus the rest of the partys $45 (or even $105), if you play the "I pay my sub, I play how I want" card, you set yourself up to lose every time. This is a multiplayer game where you are putting yourself in a position of responsibility for the rest of the party, and the party has basic expectations of you that you should meet (and if you don't through your own choice, you are the one in the wrong). Though as I have always said, the exception to this is people who are learning and try to improve.

[Xyno]

If a healer decides to DPS in their downtime, while keeping the group alive, a legitimate reason to vote kick someone? Asking, since word on the streets says that we're allowed to vote kick people for differentiating playstyles.

It is a silly question, man. If you are in a 4-dungeon or in raid and other players want to kick you, they will do that- no matter the reason- AFK, OFFline or another. No matter what are you doing

So, relax