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    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    SE should just lock Cleric Stance in synched dungeons/raids etc..
    - done with those "complains"
    - done with those unjustified Vote-kicks, because some people want a run a few mins faster
    - done with dramas about it!
    But you said

    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    If some people can dps and healing, fine, its THERE gameplay not mine o_O
    So what about my $15? Is yours worth more than mine because you refuse to DPS but I prefer to DPS while also healing?

    Also, that shot about it not being expected, that's cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    But you said



    So what about my $15? Is yours worth more than mine because you refuse to DPS but I prefer to DPS while also healing?

    Also, that shot about it not being expected, that's cute.

    See the "What about my sub fee?" argument goes both ways. Just because a player is in the minority regarding their play style doesn't make them wrong. When you use the duty finder to play with random people you are simultaneously agreeing to be grouped with others whose play styles may differ drastically from your own. If you don't like it then leave or kick them, but to rant about how stupid or bad they are is just selfish and very shortsighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    See the "What about my sub fee?" argument goes both ways. Just because a player is in the minority regarding their play style doesn't make them wrong. When you use the duty finder to play with random people you are simultaneously agreeing to be grouped with others whose play styles may differ drastically from your own. If you don't like it then leave or kick them, but to rant about how stupid or bad they are is just selfish and very shortsighted.
    Actually it doesn't go both ways, it is split 4 or 8 ways, its not about my sub fee versus yours, its about your $15 versus the rest of the partys $45 (or even $105), if you play the "I pay my sub, I play how I want" card, you set yourself up to lose every time. This is a multiplayer game where you are putting yourself in a position of responsibility for the rest of the party, and the party has basic expectations of you that you should meet (and if you don't through your own choice, you are the one in the wrong). Though as I have always said, the exception to this is people who are learning and try to improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
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    You're assuming everyone else in the party has the same mindset as you as well. Even if they do and don't like how the one person is playing, SE has made it clear that kicking based on differing play styles is acceptable. So by this logic I'm sorry, a party kicking a healer for doing dps instead of purely healing is perfectly acceptable and justifiable. /thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    You're assuming everyone else in the party has the same mindset as you as well. Even if they do and don't like how the one person is playing, SE has made it clear that kicking based on differing play styles is acceptable. So by this logic I'm sorry, a party kicking a healer for doing dps instead of purely healing is perfectly acceptable and justifiable. /thread
    If everyone in my party had the mindset of hating the fact that I fill the gaps between heals with DPS spells, and had the audacity to kick me for doing my job well, then I really don't want to be in that party.

    The point is that if a healer just idles while purely healing, the rest of the party has to work harder, if a healer follows their ABC and casts DPS spells, then the party doesn't have to work as hard and clears content faster. Please tell how these are both equally likely to be frowned upon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    I have a question.. If a Healer's job is only to heal..

    What does an Off-tank do?
    The better question is what does an off-healer do?
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