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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    I would only one race be an option for "half breed"/ "mongrel" choice.
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    As it already exist in the game, I would like it as a sub race for an existing option. They could even use the same emotes as the main race they branched off from for all i care.
    Besides it's not like it would be the first time this sub race was introduced in the FF series.


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    The thing is that so far Half breeds are very rare in the lore. Theres only one. And we are restricted from certain races namely the Padjal, who despite being rare have a good handful of members.

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    The thing im against is the people wanting every race to have a crossbreed with each other. Thats too far, biologically confusing and in some case just morally wrong. (roe x lalafell)
    Race "breeding" is a thing i dont want to make normal. Its just too awkward to work with.

    Singular cases where its done to build the character is fine. That i can handle. Having everyone get the option for no other reason than "i wanna be elezen but i dont want the elezen body" or "I wanna be small but i also wanna be a cat" is just way too much freedom in the otherwise rigid world of eorzea that i have grown to love over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    The thing is that so far Half breeds are very rare in the lore. Theres only one. And we are restricted from certain races namely the Padjal, who despite being rare have a good handful of members.
    While true the Padjal are rare due to the extraordinary means that surround their birth. The option we speak does not have that limitation, as there birth is something much more mundane. While the character in question is the only one named at the time many others could simply be living simple lives. in other places, even thriving by chance due to a lack of prejudice. It would be a fair assumption many were sent out of the city proper to cover the misdeeds of certain persons.
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    Isnt that a good thing more freedom. And it may be a rare thing now but that`s not to say future NPCs have to follow this rule and if players go half breed then it will become rather normal like it is in the real world. Also saying roe x la la is immoral is kinda messed up to me. Its like saying some one who is really tall and bulky falling in love with some who suffers from dwarfism is immoral. Its awkward and u cant help but look and go wow teddy bear and an elephant getting it on. But it is no way immoral just...different.
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    More body types, or adjustable body parts, certainly. Shoulders/chest/waist/hips. Or is every single male Roegadyn on the planet, built to that single "ultimate square box" template?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
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    I actually agree with you, my motives are purely selfish in that i simply like the idea of those characters, i also feel the the other races that are already half of something should not produce anything, should those blood lines meet. It, to me seems ludicrous to want a Miqo Te male (cat boy)+ Elezen female (elf girl) =??? Cat elf, an Au ra male (demon guy) + Roegadyn female (dog girl)=??? Demon dog guy (who's waist does the kid get?). They are already a part human hybrid race adding more hybrid to the mix seems excessive and unnecessary. As for lala, im not sure if i want demon, dog, elf, cat, potato hybrids running around. For all the claims of being adults in lore they still play up the child aspect to much for my liking. However this is only my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    While true the Padjal are rare due to the extraordinary means that surround their birth. The option we speak does not have that limitation, as there birth is something much more mundane. While the character in question is the only one named at the time many others could simply be living simple lives. in other places, even thriving by chance due to a lack of prejudice. It would be a fair assumption many were sent out of the city proper to cover the misdeeds of certain persons.
    Sure, there could be more halfbreeds out there. I am not saying that’s not possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by TjH View Post
    Isnt that a good thing more freedom. And it may be a rare thing now but that`s not to say future NPCs have to follow this rule and if players go half breed then it will become rather normal like it is in the real world.
    Its rare as is.

    Also real world crossbreeds? What are you talking about? The different “races” of eorzea is more like different species, with some interbreeding possible. I am aware theres tigers and lions being interbred but that’s not natural nor common.
    Quote Originally Posted by TjH View Post
    Also saying roe x la la is immoral is kinda messed up to me. Its like saying some one who is really tall and bulky falling in love with some who suffers from dwarfism is immoral.
    Lalafells are like toddlers. Big bulky people who breed with toddlers are not ok. Lalafells in lore might be “able” but just by going with real life morals it is not something that should be in a video game.
    People who suffer from dwarfism still retain proper adult proportions to a certain degree.
    Lalafells are shaped like toddlers.
    Quote Originally Posted by TjH View Post
    Its awkward and u cant help but look and go wow teddy bear and an elephant getting it on. But it is no way immoral just...different.
    I rest my case.

    I shall not argue this further as no good will come of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    For all the claims of being adults in lore they still play up the child aspect to much for my liking. However this is only my opinion.
    I fully agree. Despite me playing one, i am against the ability for lalafells to equip the more raunchy equipment. This might sound weird, but i dont like toddlers in lingerie. When comparing them to their spiritual ancestors, the Taru Taru, (note: I Have never touched FFXI. Dont accuse me of nostalgia) they do appear more like real children as opposed to small orange plops. Using google as an expample, when searching "taru taru" in google pictures there will just be pictures of the race stumbling about. Comparing that to lalafell, where if you google "Lalafell" you will start seeing more sexualized pictures of them, clad in underwear, drawn, etc. I dont know if it is a generational thing, but i dont like it one bit.
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    Well the idea that they are toddlers is just your opinion. As for me id like these hybrid options it allows for so much more customization. U wanna play the its a different species card go ahead i could care less. We are talking about a realm of magic and fantasy. Because u think oh this isnt possible doesnt make it so. Horses dont have wings and i cant shoot fire from my hands so a cat man and a lizard man producing some mutant off spring sounds good to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    Lalafells are like toddlers. Big bulky people who breed with toddlers are not ok. Lalafells in lore might be “able” but just by going with real life morals it is not something that should be in a video game.
    It seems like Squeenix themselves would beg to differ here, since Lalafell are pretty sexualized in-game as it is. They may not wear skimpy clothing (Because they'd just look like a popoto in a bikini anyway) but Lala NPCs are some of the dirtiest you'll find in the game. Almost every single one you meet is either evil, horny, or evil and horny, and they certainly don't restrict their attentions to members of their own race, as Gegeruju's army of dancing girls of every race can clearly attest.

    They've put a lot of effort into reminding everyone that Lalafell ARE NOT CHILDREN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    It seems like Squeenix themselves would beg to differ here, since Lalafell are pretty sexualized in-game as it is. They may not wear skimpy clothing (Because they'd just look like a popoto in a bikini anyway) but Lala NPCs are some of the dirtiest you'll find in the game. Almost every single one you meet is either evil, horny, or evil and horny, and they certainly don't restrict their attentions to members of their own race, as Gegeruju's army of dancing girls of every race can clearly attest.

    They've put a lot of effort into reminding everyone that Lalafell ARE NOT CHILDREN.
    Sigh, i know this will end badly yet i continue.

    Mentally, they are adults. They act like adults. Speak like adults. But none of them, as presented by SE, is sexualized in a manner where you are meant to find them the appealing part. They are all obsessing over some miqo'te or hyur.

    Designwise, are you going to tell me they dont have a child like appearance?
    They are quite obviously designed with a cute child in mind. If not for the large round head then for the plumb body with stumpy legs and arms.
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    No i dont think child. I think khloe from WT is a child i think the doman children in mor dhona are children not la las
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