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    what drives me nuts it when I as a DPS are on the verge of death I look up at the party list AND THE HEALER IS CASTING AERO

    if you are a healer and don't healer then you have no right to go into DF as a healer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ageofwar View Post
    what drives me nuts it when I as a DPS are on the verge of death I look up at the party list AND THE HEALER IS CASTING AERO
    if you are a healer and don't healer then you have no right to go into DF as a healer
    Did you die? If not, he has done everything right. DD's normally just get a medica II or regen...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Well, most heal only healers are better at keeping the group healthy
    I'd say this is wrong ^^. Most heal-only healer are lacking "healburst" in extreme situation and are normally bad at healing (wiping city, dun scaith etc.) or if tanks drop to fast and vita is not enough...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    than the thrillseekers that like to let the tank drop too low to recover promptly from while dpsing like a madman, but some people also like wiping, apparently. So long as we win and I'm happy with my performance, I dunnot care about anyone else's 'efforts'.
    Normally I let tanks drop hard, but as long as they live, who cares?
    With 10% hp you are still alive and can do whatever you want to. It ends with 0, not 10 or 50%.
    We have instant healing for reasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arg0n View Post
    Did you die? If not, he has done everything right. DD's normally just get a medica II or regen...
    oddly yes I did

    so you are saying its OK to keep DPS at <25% in a fight that has heavy unavoidable AOE damage like the last 3 fights in the latest 24 man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ageofwar View Post
    oddly yes I did

    so you are saying its OK to keep DPS at <25% in a fight that has heavy unavoidable AOE damage like the last 3 fights in the latest 24 man?
    This might help:

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    I don't think 24-man instances are examples good enough to stereotype healers in general - as I see it a lot of people in 24-mans don't even necessarily go in as their main class, because they're hoping to gear up alts.

    I main healer (SCH specifically) but having a set of 260 gear that is upgradable makes Dun Scaith drops redundant, so I've been going as BLM (alt which i frequently play) ever since 3.5 was released. Admittedly, most of the healers I see in that place have no idea what the heck they're doing... they can't even keep their tanks alive, much less react quickly to such changes. Most wipes I've seen in DS so far happen partially because one team's healers die (thus the whole team ends up dying shortly after), and NO ONE pays attention to the allince member list to see if any of the other teams needs any support.

    Most healers there either DPS-only, thus dumping the responsability of doing any actual work on the other healer, or stand around uselessly casting regens when no raid wide damage is happening. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    This might help:
    The incident in question happen in a 4 man dungoen, mind you I have come across a lot of bad healers and tanks since 3.5 hit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ageofwar View Post
    oddly yes I did

    so you are saying its OK to keep DPS at <25% in a fight that has heavy unavoidable AOE damage like the last 3 fights in the latest 24 man?
    Unavoidable AoE?
    There's is definitly not much of them. Most damage can be avoided easly!
    But yes, if it could be healed, healer should heal and not dps'ing lol.

    But the problems in 24 man raids are, there are so many players which can't play their class or even do the mechanics they have to do.
    So it's a bit different... you take so much damage and earn debuff stacks if you do something wrong or another one fails and the whole alliance has to suffer from this.

    Normally i'd say yes, cast a buffed medica II on everyone, even if they have <25% life, should be enough to keep dps'ing after medica.
    But through experience, i heal them up to 100% and refresh medica II cause I know, 50% or more players take a lot of damage due to ignoring mechanics.
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