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    DynamoAce's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Kicking in either situation isn't polite or helpful for the one who got kicked.

    Without being informed why they're getting kicked, they're just going to get confused.
    Potential solution there is to make the reason for the kick displayed to the one who got kicked, similar to how the party gets the notification when choosing to kick or not.
    Yeah agreed, sometimes there are some who do things wrong without realizing it so that would really help.
    But in the case of "difference in playstyle" sometimes it does suck to go through that. It would be interesting if queing for duty finder had an option for letting you que with those that have a certain playstyle, maybe a setting for that like how they do for languages.
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    I think kicking a healer for no DPSing during less intensive healing moments is not polite, but is a valid reason. Throw some DPS here and there when you can or risk being labeled a noob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltres View Post
    or risk being labeled a noob.
    What is this 2007? Or are you still at a young age where you think being the prettiest social butterfly is what you should absolutely prioritize?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    What is this 2007? Or are you still at a young age where you think being the prettiest social butterfly is what you should absolutely prioritize?
    Did I hurt your feelings, butterfly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    Well, you should be using Darkside anyway.
    It's not mutually exclusive with Grit. ;P
    I'm well aware of that.

    "I'll tank with no Grit and just use Darkside" if you really need the clarification.
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    what drives me nuts it when I as a DPS are on the verge of death I look up at the party list AND THE HEALER IS CASTING AERO

    if you are a healer and don't healer then you have no right to go into DF as a healer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ageofwar View Post
    what drives me nuts it when I as a DPS are on the verge of death I look up at the party list AND THE HEALER IS CASTING AERO
    if you are a healer and don't healer then you have no right to go into DF as a healer
    Did you die? If not, he has done everything right. DD's normally just get a medica II or regen...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Well, most heal only healers are better at keeping the group healthy
    I'd say this is wrong ^^. Most heal-only healer are lacking "healburst" in extreme situation and are normally bad at healing (wiping city, dun scaith etc.) or if tanks drop to fast and vita is not enough...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    than the thrillseekers that like to let the tank drop too low to recover promptly from while dpsing like a madman, but some people also like wiping, apparently. So long as we win and I'm happy with my performance, I dunnot care about anyone else's 'efforts'.
    Normally I let tanks drop hard, but as long as they live, who cares?
    With 10% hp you are still alive and can do whatever you want to. It ends with 0, not 10 or 50%.
    We have instant healing for reasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arg0n View Post
    Did you die? If not, he has done everything right. DD's normally just get a medica II or regen...
    oddly yes I did

    so you are saying its OK to keep DPS at <25% in a fight that has heavy unavoidable AOE damage like the last 3 fights in the latest 24 man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ageofwar View Post
    oddly yes I did

    so you are saying its OK to keep DPS at <25% in a fight that has heavy unavoidable AOE damage like the last 3 fights in the latest 24 man?
    This might help:

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    I don't think 24-man instances are examples good enough to stereotype healers in general - as I see it a lot of people in 24-mans don't even necessarily go in as their main class, because they're hoping to gear up alts.

    I main healer (SCH specifically) but having a set of 260 gear that is upgradable makes Dun Scaith drops redundant, so I've been going as BLM (alt which i frequently play) ever since 3.5 was released. Admittedly, most of the healers I see in that place have no idea what the heck they're doing... they can't even keep their tanks alive, much less react quickly to such changes. Most wipes I've seen in DS so far happen partially because one team's healers die (thus the whole team ends up dying shortly after), and NO ONE pays attention to the allince member list to see if any of the other teams needs any support.

    Most healers there either DPS-only, thus dumping the responsability of doing any actual work on the other healer, or stand around uselessly casting regens when no raid wide damage is happening. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    This might help:
    The incident in question happen in a 4 man dungoen, mind you I have come across a lot of bad healers and tanks since 3.5 hit
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