Opt-in Pay Tier Structure until 2.0 (different than the 'half pay' or 'free to play')

[DNO]

Honestly if people are not willing to pay for it now then they wont be willing to pay for it for a while. SE is actually doing the right thing. Let the people who like it pay for it. and when 2.0 drops it will have another free trial and everyone can try it then. No need to let people really try it into its really and complete. Opt in and out will only hurt it. I say lock out all the haters into its complete. Only thing Opt in and out will do is have people saying "its still not done it still sucks" So kick them into its done.

[Llewelyn]

Yoshi didn't make the call, guarantee'd. Corporate did. Yoshi is a salesman. He'd give you everything for free all day long if he was allowed, but he's not. He can make plea's but the corporate office holes all the cards.

Weren't you leaving?

Stop trying to troll people. I'm not complaining about the state of the game and have reiterated multiple times I'm willing to pay. I'm not going anywhere. I'm sticking with FFXIV regardless of what is decided.

Your attitude, on the other hand, is going to drive people away. It's not community-building; it's snobby.

Honestly if people are not willing to pay for it now then they wont be willing to pay for it for a while. SE is actually doing the right thing. Like the people who like it pay for it. and when 2.0 drops it will have another free trial and everyone can try it then. No need to let people really try it into its really and complete. Opt in and out will only hurt it. I say lock out all the haters into its complete. Only think Opt in and out will do is have people saying "its still not done it still sucks" So kick them into its done.

Possibly. But I think most of the real haters left a year ago. There's definitely some griefers still floating around, but I dont think that has much to do with the FTP period.

[Wynn]

I understand where this line of thinking is coming from and I think it would be quite fair to offer free trial up to a certain level then ask for payment if they wish to keep playing. Player gets to evaluate if they like it and SE gets the money they deserve for the work they have put into their product.

[Llewelyn]

I understand where this line of thinking is coming from and I think it would be quite fair to offer free trial up to a certain level then ask for payment if they wish to keep playing. Player gets to evaluate if they like it and SE gets the money they deserve for the work they have put into their product.

Yeah, I'm a real fan of this idea. It's basically the way trial periods work in Aion, IIRC

[Nuru]

The idea of it costing anything is that the events that players will get to experience are a one-time-only deal. That right there is what we are buying into, instead of just paying to play the game in general. Otherwise, if it weren't so special, they would close down the servers, but that would go against their own words.

Plus, we'd get a head start on Job System anyways.

[Alexis_Arteme]

Nasomi couldn't be more right. S-E has no time to build any kind of system for payment or even care. I want them working on the game. Charge me whatever you want. 5, 25 whatever. I'll be here. Those that won't, wont.

[VydarrTyr]

And here's why. It would cost SE a lot of man hours to implement such a system, making it counter productive. They didn't ask for your advice on payment. They asked for your feedback on systems they're putting in. If you haven't figured out that once SE says they're going to do something they're not going to change your mind, you need to get that brain cell of yours to start multiplying before you forget to breathe.

I realize it probably takes a lot of time and effort to layer your posts with such heavy doses of snark and insult, but before insulting someone else's intelligence, you might consider at least informing yourself on the topic on which you're slinging insults. That way, it won't come back to bite you in the rear when it turns out that you're insulting someone else for not knowing something that you're wrong about.

Here's an interview that's been linked in this forum no fewer than four (4) times:

SE: It's interesting to hear that the player base was against it, but when offered paying half that more were for it.

...

SE: We went over many options when deciding to start the subscription system again. Maybe charging half, maybe charging less, maybe extending the free period. There's many options. The reason we decided to start the subscription system and charge the price we're charging is that, one of the things is players playing now, others players go "Why are you playing this game? It's not done." Maybe charging less for it, you get the sense, "Oh, it's still not done and you're still not getting a full product." This is our roadmap. This is what we're going to do. We're getting the players opinions and reflecting them in the game. We're also working to give players beyond even what they expect with update content, such as the realtime events that you will not be able to play anywhere else. We have to show the players that we'll be accepting money from you now, so now we have to work even harder in order to give you more than what you get for your money. But you went ahead and you had this poll and we know that you're a good group of hardcore players that have been there a long time. So we are taking this poll to heart and discuss this again and see if this is an option for us. We will then get back to the players and decide.

I think the problem with the OP's suggestion is that it would apply to new players just coming in and starting new characters, but not the current player base, much of which already has a job over level 25. If I've got a level 50 character, and I decide to play for free, do I have to start a new character from level 1, thus losing all the time and effort I put into the game during its "free" phase? That wouldn't be much incentive for current players to stick around or come back until 2.0.

[Zuellni]

You've had plenty of time free of charge...time to pay up.

I've already paid. I've had 6 months worth of crysta since the end of the first month after launch.

Just shooting ideas out for those who are new or don't feel ready yet.

[nasomi]

I realize it probably takes a lot of time and effort to layer your posts with such heavy doses of snark and insult, but before insulting someone else's intelligence, you might consider at least informing yourself on the topic on which you're slinging insults. That way, it won't come back to bite you in the rear when it turns out that you're insulting someone else for not knowing something that you're wrong about.

It's actually pretty easy. Just copy and paste the same response into the 100+ posts a day about people saying that SE and the game is terrible, and they're leaving, only to not leave but to continue to pollute the forum with trash like this. Just leave already.

[Murugan]

The riff-raff I have been seeing around Ul'dah lately offends my highly refined sensibilities. I do not wish to share a server with peasants....

I suggest instead a mandatory $100 per month service fee.

Heed my warning Naoki Yoshida, or you will lose me and all of Eorzean high society. Let us just see how the game's community will fare when it is deprived of its betters!