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スレッド: FFXIV x Zodiac Age

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    XV isnt available on PC, nor has it officially been announced to come out for PC. The team wants to release it but are not decided.
    It said on fb they will on pc and give pc players exclusiv things for them

    Edit: its how i understand this article i got the link from fb http://www.novacrystallis.com/2017/0...e-mod-support/
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    2017/02/03 22:58; RosaLunaCelestia が最後に編集

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    Quote 引用元:Berethos 投稿を閲覧
    Ivalice and Hydaelyn are currently two completely separate worlds. The raid in Stormblood could change this (and would be a pretty big deal), but until it does XIV has set a precedent for using things from previous FF titles but those things being their own thing in the XIV world and not the actual original. Currently there is no compelling reason (especially given previous interviews on the connected or not nature of the world) to think this will change.
    Ah yes, good point.
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    In FXII Zodiark is a serpent thing with wings, while in FFXIV Zodiark is allegedly a Dark Crystal. If the Ivalice in XII and Tatics and XIV are the same Ivalice and if the two Zodiarks are the same, not sure how the latter game will explain his crystal form.
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    2017/02/08 04:42; EorzeaHero69 が最後に編集

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    Quote 引用元:EorzeaHero69 投稿を閲覧
    In FXII Zodiark is a serpent thing with wings, while in FFXIV Zodiark is allegedly a Dark Crystal. If the Ivalice in XII and Tatics and XIV are the same Ivalice and if the two Zodiarks are the same, not sure how the latter game will explain his crystal form.
    Esper-like Magicite formed when he was defeated?
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    Esper-like Magicite formed when he was defeated?
    I wouldn't even humour the idea. Zodiark is the massive overarching evil for the entirety of eorzea and his relevance is noted at all times, having him be a reference to ivalice would cheapen the plot IMO. It would be the equivilent to Xande being the actual Xande from FFIII and the allagan empire being founded from the aftermath of FFIII.
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    2017/02/08 07:21; Lambdafish が最後に編集

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    Quote 引用元:Lambdafish 投稿を閲覧
    I wouldn't even humour the idea. Zodiark is the massive overarching evil for the entirety of eorzea and his relevance is noted at all times, having him be a reference to ivalice would cheapen the plot IMO. It would be the equivilent to Xande being the actual Xande from FFIII and the allagan empire being founded from the aftermath of FFIII.
    I'm not sure Zodiark can take up the slot as the massive overarching evil for Eorzea, given his will is the rejoining of the shards to gain freedom. By comparison the Void's denizens want to turn every reflection into a Void as well, destroying everything in the process. Zodiark is the prime opposition to Hydaelyn, but we don't have any guarantees that Hydaelyn is some kind of benevolent entity, or that Zodiark delights in our suffering.
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    Quote 引用元:Vexander 投稿を閲覧
    I'm not sure Zodiark can take up the slot as the massive overarching evil for Eorzea, given his will is the rejoining of the shards to gain freedom. By comparison the Void's denizens want to turn every reflection into a Void as well, destroying everything in the process. Zodiark is the prime opposition to Hydaelyn, but we don't have any guarantees that Hydaelyn is some kind of benevolent entity, or that Zodiark delights in our suffering.
    You are correct, it was short sighted of me to call him evil, with him literally just being darkness/chaos without an agenda. As agents of hydaelyn though, he (it) IS our overarching antagonist.
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    Quote 引用元:Berethos 投稿を閲覧
    Ivalice and Hydaelyn are currently two completely separate worlds. The raid in Stormblood could change this (and would be a pretty big deal), but until it does XIV has set a precedent for using things from previous FF titles but those things being their own thing in the XIV world and not the actual original. Currently there is no compelling reason (especially given previous interviews on the connected or not nature of the world) to think this will change.
    The major nations from FF12 already have their namesakes in FF14 in Garlean territory. Ivalice will quite likely just be a region in the Garlemald empire that acted as an alliance against the Garlean invasion. The two worlds really aren't that compatable. The geography, metaphysics and even noteworthy figures don't really match up.

    Quote 引用元:Vexander 投稿を閲覧
    I'm not sure Zodiark can take up the slot as the massive overarching evil for Eorzea, given his will is the rejoining of the shards to gain freedom. By comparison the Void's denizens want to turn every reflection into a Void as well, destroying everything in the process. Zodiark is the prime opposition to Hydaelyn, but we don't have any guarantees that Hydaelyn is some kind of benevolent entity, or that Zodiark delights in our suffering.
    Considering the general contempt his followers have for mortals and the fact that every rejoining kills massive numbers on the source world and everything on the shard world its hardly friendly. Admittedly we really only have one side of the story at this point. 'Evil' or no, Zodiark's goals are most definitely not benevolent towards mortals, if only by the fact that they are collateral damage.
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    2017/02/08 07:39; Belhi が最後に編集

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    I wish they would do stuff like this instead of Garo heh I have no idea what it is...much rather have more FF crossover stuff in XIV !
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    Quote 引用元:Lambdafish 投稿を閲覧
    You are correct, it was short sighted of me to call him evil, with him literally just being darkness/chaos without an agenda. As agents of hydaelyn though, he (it) IS our overarching antagonist.
    Not quite sure he is Chaos incarnate to be honest. Darkness, perhaps, though whether that is due to aether deprivation for so long is another question. Yes, we are agents of Hydaelyn, yes what strange coincidences exist between us and the Ascians? Look at the Warriors of Darkness, once Warriors of Light.

    Quote 引用元:Belhi 投稿を閲覧
    Considering the general contempt his followers have for mortals and the fact that every rejoining kills massive numbers on the source world and everything on the shard world its hardly friendly. Admittedly we really only have one side of the story at this point. 'Evil' or no, Zodiark's goals are most definitely not benevolent towards mortals, if only by the fact that they are collateral damage.
    Keeping in mind, of course, that not all his followers show contempt for Mortals.

    Elidibus not only shows respect and diplomacy when interacting with us and other mortals, he's even saved a few mortal lives (Warring Triad Spoiler). Above the other Ascians he seems the most in tuned to the will of Zodiark, and above them all, seems determined to find a balance between Light and Darkness, as the voids which form from the dominance of one serve no one. Given it is the balance between Light and Dark which makes it possible for mortal life to even exist in the first place, I would say Zodiark is not so keen on our extinction as Hydaelyn would like to have us believe.

    Anyways, this is getting a bit off topic. The question was how a FFXII Zodiark and a FFXIV Zodiark could be the same being.
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