Seriously, when are you guys gonna nerf ASTs again? Its highly needed.

[kensatsu]

I guess why some players won't queue with someone judging there is so much retards playing the game. Offcourse everyone don't have the same exp, and it's something pvper have to deal with.
It's weird, i always find some place where players try to coordinate even in pugs group.
Also i play frontline since day one in secure, i have played a lot in adder, and switch mael and immortal for the poney, i have 33/100 victory ratio, to me it's the proof it's balanced.
Win 1 game out of 3 is fair to me. Get some patience and you will get your mount like everyone.
And Ast don't need to be nerfed, nerfing the ast and nobody play the ast in pvp again...

[KusoWat]

Personal problems that people have with OP put aside, I think the devs went overboard with the last AST buffs. If anything, they need a nerf in PVE (especially when it comes to MP management).

Ast certainly needs a nerf in PvE, but a lot of the latest AST buffs aren't applied in PvP. Their shields are still the same,weak, and balance/bole base is still 10%.

[KusoWat]

Also if your dying in frontlines as an AST you are kinda bad. They have the most advantage staying in back of their group to not get targeted.

If you aren't killing an AST in Frontlines, thats kinda sad.

[loreleidiangelo]

Ast certainly needs a nerf in PvE, but a lot of the latest AST buffs aren't applied in PvP. Their shields are still the same,weak, and balance/bole base is still 10%.

More to the point, WHM is also just as effective with their spammable Holy peel, same Blizzard II that AST gets, same single-target Heavy etc except they also get Fluid Aura, Repose, super-good Divine Prism, don't need a nearby party member to use their healing potency buff, etc. Really a SCH is the only healer that might have trouble in a chase situation due to lack of hard CC, but sacking Eos for Dissipate for 3 extra Lustrates ain't bad either. (Still maintain SCH AOE punt needs a CC component for decent self-peeling.)

Heck, the devs could disable card use in PVP if it's really that big of a deal...I guarantee bads will still not be able to kill a good AST and will complain anyway. I still maintain that good WHMs in Frontlines are even more of a pain to chase.

[Fevelle]

I'm kinda new to PVP, but honestly I think WHM is much more problematic to deal with and much more of a PVP powerhouse. It's extremely hard to chase a WHM alone due to Fluid Aura and Repose, we have the most powerful regens in the game that helps a lot when fleeing, not only that but also Sacred Prism wich is awesome (40% physical mitigation is a lot) and Benediction used after a well timed Attunement is like a second HP bar for enemies to deal with.

[Volene]

You missed my whole point of ast and just typed out the typical garbage most others say. Their ability to constantly run away while insta shield healing them AND their teammates.

You're the one missing the point here. Yes, noct AST has an insta-shield. Why? Because it's weak. The shield is only 65% of the HP restored, and the spell is only 250 potency. That means the shield is around 160 potency, barely above half an Adlo, and without the doubled value upon a crit. Being instant is the only thing that makes Aspected Benefic viable when compared to Adlo shielding. The thing is that spamming instant shields is not a viable method of healing even against light focus - the spell's combined potency (250+162,5) is barely above that of a Cure I/Benefic I/Physick. An AST needs more than that to survive being focused. If "spamming instant shields" is enough, as you put it, that's on you, not on AST being OP.

[Cleanse]

A better argument is getting SCH up to par with WHM and AST.

[Ama_Hamada]

The problem with AST in pvp is being able to heal too much while moving and sprinting.
maybe spirit healing needs a nerf? no idea

A better argument is getting SCH up to par with WHM and AST.

Agreed, SCH is extremely lacking in PvP and I want to know why.

[Maddonious]

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Still see nothing wrong other then me getting frustrated. It happens after 30 feasts and 100 front lines since 3.5 (not counting all the losses). Altho it's sad to see you guys from that community come onto a thread to suggest I was a bad player, looking for carries, lying, and slandering certain players specficially (a general statement doesn't count as it targets no one in particular).

Keep up the shining example cause you guys are doing more harm to your image then I am. Like a cult that shames people for leaving.

Edit: gah cant phone edit. What do those post have to do with the forum topic? As the leader of that discord its a shame to see you also jumping on the bandwangon to try to single me out but failing. What is it you are trying to point out about me exactly? That I ask if any groups are roaming? That I check to make sure others might want to party up? That I supposedly want a carry cause I say I need 5 more wins left (so far) to suggest I plan on doing much more after that milestone im about to hit? I did 80% of my wins without a party so I see no evidence I was asking for a handout. That I have colorful language? I join a pvp discord to look for other players interested in frontlines as well and im being shamed for asking in a pvp discord?

What is the logic of that? Do you join a raid discord only to find out no one in there raids what you wanna raid so you choose to stay or find some place else that better suits your needs? Honestly making yourself look like a fool.

As for you and your posse it only shows just how thin skinned you are when I said nothing to you guys even remotely aggressive and I get your party to come into my forum and try to shame me or discredit my opinions on class balance? All it shows is how petty your community is and treats others if they dont do what you wanna do or choose to find other places. I gave my final message before leaving as a form of thought as people wont learn nothing if nothing is said.

It is people like yourselves that got feast chat removed and its a dam shame.

[Vice-Taicho]

Agreed, SCH is extremely lacking in PvP and I want to know why.

Lack off cc, aura blast was good in lvl 50 fl, where you could bait ppl on edges and push them off the cliff(good player didn't fall for it tho), blizz 2 accesible to all healer its a good tool but its our only way to cc, blind(ruin2) is underused IT'S GOOD but inconsistent, we mp starve easily compared to the two other healer, and harder to play since we have to manage fairy too. Even tho difficulty should never be a factor in tier ranking but I meh. Correct me if im wrong