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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    It's worth noting that the "limited time and resources" thing isn't quite so true anymore, and at least as far as resources, SE themselves declared they were in a pretty good spot, moving forward into Stormblood. So that no longer really holds weight.

    Beyond that, if one continuously overlooks minority issues and loses people for it, pretty soon that scale gets unbalanced. If SE isn't willing to properly support PvP content and the player community that has formed around it, they should never have done so in the first place. Granted, those looking for that experience will have gone elsewhere, and still can, but it's a bad argument to say "well since there's so few of you, you're less important". ASTs were the least played job til recently; by that logic, it was a loss to bother buffing/balancing them.

    SE, AND the players need to understand something: Personal opinions of PvP aside, it's part of this game. To say it doesn't deserve proper support or handling of big issues is the same as saying anything else in this game doesn't deserve it. And that would be equally wrong to say of anything in the game. Simply put: If there's an issue with gameplay and the community that engages in it primarily cries out for a fix or change, it deserves proper handling. The size of the problem is irrelevant. (EDIT) As an addendum, consider this: If you cater to a niche market, and you keep them happy, that's guaranteed money. What they want, they either can get anywhere but choose you, OR they can't get it elsewhere, and you're offering them something they'll pay for. From a business standpoint, I'd want to keep those people happy to keep them loyal.
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    Chronons's Avatar
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    Ulyssi Ironside
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
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    Don't get me wrong now. Iv'e been PVPing since back when all we had was lvl 50 Wolve's Den and the only rewards were the fun of it. Ill continue to pvp regardless of whether SE removes chat, takes away our unique rewards, or whatever else could come down the pipeline. However, I would like to interact to a few of your points.

    "Limited time and resources" is and will always be a true statement. Sure SE may have more money now than at other points in the games history, but that doesn't mean they can do everything. There is still a choice of risk/reward with time and funding. It will always be true that spending those resources on the majority will yield greater returns, unless they charge the minorities more for the same resource allocation.

    I dont think they should ignore the niche communities in the game, especially PVP. I want my chat back in a ranked mode. Im tired of losing for stupid reasons. I have brought new people into PVP who have been frustrated with it because they cant ask question/get feedback on the fly. I dont even think that its morally acceptable for SE to ignore the PVP community regarding these issues. Im only saying that since we are a small community it is not surprising or unreasonable that SE drags their feet on it from a business perspective. They dont make as much money investing in PVP as they do in other areas. I dont like like that, but i'm not going to pretend like that is unreasonable from their perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exira View Post
    i still don't understand why ppl here get mad for everything i wasnt laughin on u but the thing that ppl says : pvp is minority , raid is minority , everything is minority and my question was : what ppl actually do
    I am not mad, just forward. Argumentation does not have to equate to anger.
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