FFXIV: Cheat 2 Win - The New Norm?

[Evangela]

This is still wrong as the Community should work against that kind of Players. If everyone would have that in their mind, FFXIV would be infested by Bots and drive Legit Players away.

If you do not care at all, they don't either and it's an approval for them to continue...

No Point to discuss this, Cheaters are Cheaters and those who use Programs that automate their Characters in any Way should be banned for good.

This is no Singleplayer Game, while it might not hurt your Gameplay in any Way, it does for others!

Why should I care about bots hurting greedy merchants?

crafters and gatherers hate bots? that's their problem. fight your own war. don't put the burden on everyone.

I don't even like merchants to begin with. If this game implements free PvP I'll Trick Attack them and take their lunch money.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

That's actually 10+ bots there. Their legs are under the ground.

How can they make new characters on Balmung anyway?

Because they're always running automated programs trying to create characters.

When the servers come back up from maintenance you'll see a fresh batch of gibberish rmt bots who managed to swarm in and mass create their bots.

They eventually get banned and due to the restrictions you shouldn't see more gibberish farm bots until the next maintenance.

[Mwynn]

Why should I care about bots hurting greedy merchants?

crafters and gatherers hate bots? that's their problem. fight your own war. don't put the burden on everyone.

A War you say, really? It is "obvious" who looses in the end, literally us Players who have farmed mass amounts of Blue Scrips for all Nine Folklore Books while others do it automated when they Sleep.
Again this is about Unfair Advantages over Players who still do or have grinded to the Point, where they finally could make the Marketboard lucrative in the end.

It is a spit in the Face for anyone who has grinded 44.550 Blue Scrips just to get spitted again getting told "Ha, that took you so long? I, the Bot, did this in a few Days and now gonna farm Nodes for Months".

You honestly seem not to known what effects Real Player Bots have in the end once they have the Free Pass to Bot, the Marketboard won't be even shiny for you anymore aswell.
Given the Fact it also does not affect Crafting/Gathering in the end, it does affect Player Housing aswell, some Bots do in Fact own Houses which they sell for a ton of Gil, eh?

In the End you still don't care, obvious why.

That you don't get the Fact that People use Illegal Programs not being allowed officially is one thing, on the other Side when a RMT Bot starts to Whisper you it's the End of the World.
Surprisingly once the Real Player Bots would interact with you in any Way suddenly you would change that mind.

Great Logic, totally not so.

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Speaking about Balmung, Players putting in there over 200-300 Stacks of Seaborne Aethersand, ya, it doesn't surprise me if Non Gatherers/Crafters find this great or amazing. <-- {Irony}
As for the Shards/Crystals and Clusters... I'm not surprised if Water Clusters are about 100-300 Gil a pop while they're mostly on most Servers for around 800 - 1.200 Gil a pop.

But in the end, that's Balmung's fault literally, the Server is exploding and yet People flood in like there is no tomorrow.

[Vexander]

But in the end, that's Balmung's fault literally, the Server is exploding and yet People flood in like there is no tomorrow.

How is Balmung exploding? Things seem relatively fine when I log in. No fires or anything.

That said, I do support banning bots. Maybe SE just needs to add one of those Captcha measures to character creation. Annoying for anyone making a new character, but the game isn't exactly alt friendly, so that seems like one of the least player-impacting Anti-Bot measures that could be taken. Not that it'd help too much, but still.

[Mwynn]

How is Balmung exploding? Things seem relatively fine when I log in. No fires or anything.

That said, I do support banning bots. Maybe SE just needs to add one of those Captcha measures to character creation. Annoying for anyone making a new character, but the game isn't exactly alt friendly, so that seems like one of the least player-impacting Anti-Bot measures that could be taken. Not that it'd help too much, but still.

Exploding not in terms of trouble Queue while Logging in, tho due of the amount of Players that login/logoff Daily, which is extremely huge, if not even bigger than Gilgamesh.

[Vexander]

Exploding not in terms of trouble Queue while Logging in, tho due of the amount of Players that login/logoff Daily, which is extremely huge, if not even bigger than Gilgamesh.

Ah, right. That's one of those circles though.

Join the game. Want to play with your friends. They're on Balmung. Move to Balmung.
Get friends to join the game. They want to play with you. They come to Balmung.
Their friends join the game, and want to play with them, so they come to Balmung.

[Evangela]

Speaking about Balmung, Players putting in there over 200-300 Stacks of Seaborne Aethersand, ya, it doesn't surprise me if Non Gatherers/Crafters find this great or amazing. <-- {Irony}
As for the Shards/Crystals and Clusters... I'm not surprised if Water Clusters are about 100-300 Gil a pop while they're mostly on most Servers for around 800 - 1.200 Gil a pop.

But in the end, that's Balmung's fault literally, the Server is exploding and yet People flood in like there is no tomorrow.

What's the problem? Cheaper things on the market board = better.

[Mwynn]

What's the problem? Cheaper things on the market board = better.

Because you simply don't get it that it's actually hurting.
Like I said, just because you do not Gather or Crafter, doesn't mean it does not hurt others at all.

If you can buy stacks of Ores being cheap, so can do others that results into bazillions of Crafts making them even less valued.
I honestly don't Gather Stuff that are being farmed by some Bots, as it is pointless mainly because they drive the Prices even more down.

Materials / Gathered Stuff becomes pointless to an Point where one questions themself if Gathering has even a Reason afterall if Stuff becomes literally almost Vendor Trash.

So hard to understand? Given the Fact, if the Economy of Balmung would apply on my Server I'd better not Gather/Craft at all as it is totally pointless...

Nevermind, I leave this, I think you don't know that we are talking about Gathering Bots and not about People that do not have Gathering/Crafting Classes leveled.
Get it, your Argumentations are useless as they do not contribute to the Thread.

[Evangela]

Because you simply don't get it that it's actually hurting.
Like I said, just because you do not Gather or Crafter, doesn't mean it does not hurt others at all.

If you can buy stacks of Ores being cheap, so can do others that results into bazillions of Crafts making them even less valued.

So hard to understand?

So what if crafted items are cheap? It's a good thing for us DoW/M.

[Mwynn]

So what if crafted items are cheap? It's a good thing for us DoW/M.

You still don't get it. I qoute... :

I think you don't know that we are talking about Gathering Bots and not about People that do not have Gathering/Crafting Classes leveled.

Pointless to discuss this with you. I just leave it at that and you can support the Bots by buying their Items as it seems.