FFXIV: Cheat 2 Win - The New Norm?

[Adire]

I'd apologize on behalf of Balmung for the server seeming to support bots, but seeing as my views are usually not in line with the average Balmung player's, I can't.

So I'll just say down with bots!

[Evangela]

Everyone is able to afford the Mats with no Work at all nor a Gil Sink, this results in tons of Crafted Items and thus flooding the Marketboard with tons of People undercutting each other.
If Stuff is Cheap to get beforehand, People will buy tons and flood the Marketboard, not only for the Gathering Part.

No hating Bots? Oh well, this is just wrong... on so many levels.

That's like a confirmation that you approve what they're doing, nice view!

I don't craft, I don't gather, so I'm not losing any money.

Market board getting flooded with materials? Cool, I can buy stuffs cheaper.

I didn't approve them. I'm neutral, as long as they don't cause any issue to me.

[Mwynn]

I didn't approve them. I'm neutral, as long as they don't cause any issue to me.

This is still wrong as the Community should work against that kind of Players. If everyone would have that in their mind, FFXIV would be infested by Bots and drive Legit Players away.

If you do not care at all, they don't either and it's an approval for them to continue...

No Point to discuss this, Cheaters are Cheaters and those who use Programs that automate their Characters in any Way should be banned for good.

This is no Singleplayer Game, while it might not hurt your Gameplay in any Way, it does for others!

[Lambdafish]

At the end of the day, there is NOTHING that can be done about bots that won't negatively impact us who play the game legitimately. You can censor them and limit them, but they will find a way around that, while we are also censored and limited. Think about it like the recent pvp chat changes, that was a move the negatively affected everyone to persecute a few.

LM-17, FFXI, your move.

Forgive my ignorance, but could somebody explain to me what LM-17 was? I never played XI.

[Rinuko]

LM-17, FFXI, your move.

Lol yeah this so much. Its not like they mass banned 1000 of accounts from people who exploided the savage glitch back with XI

[aesteval]

I've made quite a bit of money gathering and bots don't seem to be an issue. I suppose if you're trying to sell crystals and shards. At least that is the case on Siren. Gathering and selling make up a nice chuck of my dailies. Always something to do in this game. I'm curious what mats you're referring to that bots seem to be having an impact on.

We have (a) bot(s) in full Ironworks on Ultros. So any and all end game mats have been flooded - aethersands and folklore node mats. The one area not covered is anything to do with fishing. Full stacks of aethersands for cheap and folklore mats that have been pushed down to a couple hundred gil.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

This has been said before but why is it always Balmung.

[Evangela]

This is still wrong as the Community should work against that kind of Players. If everyone would have that in their mind, FFXIV would be infested by Bots and drive Legit Players away.

If you do not care at all, they don't either and it's an approval for them to continue...

No Point to discuss this, Cheaters are Cheaters and those who use Programs that automate their Characters in any Way should be banned for good.

This is no Singleplayer Game, while it might not hurt your Gameplay in any Way, it does for others!

Why should I care about bots hurting greedy merchants?

crafters and gatherers hate bots? that's their problem. fight your own war. don't put the burden on everyone.

I don't even like merchants to begin with. If this game implements free PvP I'll Trick Attack them and take their lunch money.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

That's actually 10+ bots there. Their legs are under the ground.

How can they make new characters on Balmung anyway?

Because they're always running automated programs trying to create characters.

When the servers come back up from maintenance you'll see a fresh batch of gibberish rmt bots who managed to swarm in and mass create their bots.

They eventually get banned and due to the restrictions you shouldn't see more gibberish farm bots until the next maintenance.

[Mwynn]

Why should I care about bots hurting greedy merchants?

crafters and gatherers hate bots? that's their problem. fight your own war. don't put the burden on everyone.

A War you say, really? It is "obvious" who looses in the end, literally us Players who have farmed mass amounts of Blue Scrips for all Nine Folklore Books while others do it automated when they Sleep.
Again this is about Unfair Advantages over Players who still do or have grinded to the Point, where they finally could make the Marketboard lucrative in the end.

It is a spit in the Face for anyone who has grinded 44.550 Blue Scrips just to get spitted again getting told "Ha, that took you so long? I, the Bot, did this in a few Days and now gonna farm Nodes for Months".

You honestly seem not to known what effects Real Player Bots have in the end once they have the Free Pass to Bot, the Marketboard won't be even shiny for you anymore aswell.
Given the Fact it also does not affect Crafting/Gathering in the end, it does affect Player Housing aswell, some Bots do in Fact own Houses which they sell for a ton of Gil, eh?

In the End you still don't care, obvious why.

That you don't get the Fact that People use Illegal Programs not being allowed officially is one thing, on the other Side when a RMT Bot starts to Whisper you it's the End of the World.
Surprisingly once the Real Player Bots would interact with you in any Way suddenly you would change that mind.

Great Logic, totally not so.

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Speaking about Balmung, Players putting in there over 200-300 Stacks of Seaborne Aethersand, ya, it doesn't surprise me if Non Gatherers/Crafters find this great or amazing. <-- {Irony}
As for the Shards/Crystals and Clusters... I'm not surprised if Water Clusters are about 100-300 Gil a pop while they're mostly on most Servers for around 800 - 1.200 Gil a pop.

But in the end, that's Balmung's fault literally, the Server is exploding and yet People flood in like there is no tomorrow.