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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Depends what time period. The original setting of Ivalice in FFT didn't have Viera or any mention of the said race, only in Advance did they then exist and then onward.
    Thank you for the information. o/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Depends what time period. The original setting of Ivalice in FFT didn't have Viera or any mention of the said race, only in Advance did they then exist and then onward.
    Final Fantasy XII is the beggining of Ivalice story, thousand years in the past (compared to original Tactics), and it is located on Occuria. Then We have FFXII: Renevant Wings which takes places 2 years after XII. After that comes Final Fantasy Tactics A2 and then the last is Final Fantasy Tactics.

    So Viera has always been there on Ivalice Story;

    The world in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance is just an illusion created by the Grimoire, it is not the real Ivalice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Ok, Ok, wait. We are getting "Return to Ivalice" as a raid...so viera are now lore friendly? They were in Ivalice...
    Plus they already said that Ivalice is not the same as THE Ivalice.
    They just took the name as a recuring one in the FF franchise, like other things in the game (Biggs and Wedge, Omega and Ultima, the Gold Saucer etc)
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

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    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOthe View Post
    So Viera has always been there on Ivalice Story;

    The world in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance is just an illusion created by the Grimoire, it is not the real Ivalice.
    I'm speaking in terms of title releases. Tactics was the first game that introduced Ivalice, but there didn't exist the Viera. In Advanced, canon or not, then did that race exist, and from then on any title set in Ivalice had them.

    When you introduce a new entity into a world through the past, then it becomes difficult. Despite them existing in the universe now, they didn't in the original conception of the world. And I doubt people will be pleased to see Viera just ham-fisted into Tacticts' setting. So if this "Return to Ivalice" is centered around Tactics then don't expect to see them.
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    NO no no....no rabbit ears on human looking torsos with weird legs and puffy tails. I already saw Santa killing a dear and a big old teddy bear riding a horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renius View Post
    I already saw Santa killing a dear and a big old teddy bear riding a horse.
    Sounds like a very traumatizing event. Are you ok?
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    I'd rather them touch up the existing character models, and possible add more customizations before adding in a new race that would require them to redesign every single piece of feet gear in the the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
    I'd rather them touch up the existing character models, and possible add more customizations before adding in a new race that would require them to redesign every single piece of feet gear in the the game.
    I'm all for more character customization as well as the addition of a viera race to the game. I don't mind which they decide to work on first; customization or viera. As long as we get viera in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Beastmen glamour, on the other hand... (and not something like the Vanu Vanu and Gnath gear, but glamour that transforms us into Beastmen. Most SE would have to do is work on animations and weapons).

    If SE can do that (and do it well), then I will stop being vocal against the Viera.
    Although I have zero interest in beastmen glamour, I'm not opposed to the idea. I hope you can one day get the glamour you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Although I have zero interest in beastmen glamour, I'm not opposed to the idea. I hope you can one day get the glamour you want.
    Agree with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Plus they already said that Ivalice is not the same as THE Ivalice.
    They just took the name as a recuring one in the FF franchise, like other things in the game (Biggs and Wedge, Omega and Ultima, the Gold Saucer etc)
    Then if this is the case why did they name the raid "Return to Ivalice"? I cant return to an Ivalice that I don't know. That seems pretty unnecessarily confusing.
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