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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    I am pretty sure Seig meant you were flying off the handle because you are no longer making any logical sense since you are now contradicting
    Unsync is the equivalent of not playing the content, and I stated that my opinion on the matter is just ok obviously its not a big deal for players to throw their gil around and buy everything they want and hard work or effort isnt a thing in this game. So if its not then instead of making people farm the items then why not just sell them on the mog station it would be even easier to get them, if they dont matter why go in an instance over and over for some rng.

    When SE could just simply put them on the mog station and if you have the money you can buy it there. Id buy one then we are talkin about not needing to earn it because its no longer just an in game item, if anyone can have anything and everything in the game because thats the fair thing to do as people say. Then how would it not be fair also to place them as purchasable items, if effort is out of the window then why not bring more cash to the game by allowing people to buy them.

    Cash shop helps the game, and instead of people gettin them for free alone with zero effort , why not let people also buy them like many other mmos do. THe people that have replied to this thread have made it clear that none of these items matter, so if they do not they arent worth anything so why go out of ur way to get them when SE could also provide them at a price. I already have bought two mounts from mog , so Im pretty sure others would buy them as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Cash shop helps the game, and instead of people gettin them for free alone with zero effort , why not let people also buy them like many other mmos do. THe people that have replied to this thread have made it clear that none of these items matter, so if they do not they are worth anything so why go out of ur way to get them when SE could also provide them at a price. I already have bought two mounts from mog , so Im pretty sure others would buy them as well.
    Because this isnt a FreeToPlay-game but one with a sub-model and they have to release content? Because we pay monthly and can and should expect decent content for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Because this isnt a FreeToPlay-game but one with a sub-model and they have to release content? Because we pay monthly and can and should expect decent content for that?
    But remember everyone doesnt play that content this would make it easier for the clear buyers, and unsync only runners. And you just stated old content was not relevant, so they could sell by patch Arr mounts first then Hw etc. This game is sub based with a cash shop so they can actually do both and they already are doing both so I dont really see the issue here.

    Adding more items to the cashshop would be beneficial , for instance when I started I wanted the dragon mount for recruit a friend and I missed it. So sellin mounts would actually be a good thing as content dies and gets old , more money equals a better quality game. And Im sure many of the people that dont partake in content , for whatever reason wouldnt mind being able to buy more items on the mog station. Like the witches broom I wanted it when I first saw it so I bought it when they allowed us to for halloween. So yes as content gets older put the rewards in mog station for sale, i dont see how this would there is no value to them in game so why would it matter if they where purchasable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Adding more items to the cashshop would be beneficial ,
    No, it wouldnt be - not even from a buisness perspective since they have to make sure we spend enough time playing the game and paying for it. The easiest way to achieve that is by making us farm for mounts etc. etc. Old content isnt relevant and up to date anymore but it still keeps people busy by giving them that carrot (the whistles are actually a bit shaped like carrots, right...?).
    This game doesnt need more cash shop and I dont understand why you're fine with SE taking rl money but not with players taking like ingame fake money for something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Id buy one then
    So...we finally find out the real reason for this thread.

    This whole thing has been about you wanting something in the game which you obviously lack the ability to get so you want to just buy it with real money?

    M. Night Shyamalan twist?

    If you are willing to buy things for real money why is it you won't just do the content unsync? You kept advocating that people should not be rewarded for no effort but you are willing to accept one effortless way but condemn another????

    You say buying clears or doing content unsync is effortless, but buying things off mogstation is even more effortless so why is it okay to buy things off mogstation but not do the content unsync or buy clears???? Hypocrisy?

    Unsync is still playing the game, as you have to still actually step foot in the content which drops what you want, unlike just going to mogstation website. So you wrote a lot of text but still didn't actually explain your contradictions. If anything there is more of them now...

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    So if its not then instead of making people farm the items then why not just sell them on the mog station it would be even easier to get them, if they dont matter why go in an instance over and over for some rng.
    Complains people get rewards with no effort.
    Suggests making it even easier and less effort for everyone to get them.
    ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    I give up anyway. I really hope you are just trolling because this is getting bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    So...we finally find out the real reason for this thread.

    This whole thing has been about you wanting something in the game which you obviously lack the ability to get so you want to just buy it with real money?
    I have no clue how u got that out of what I actually said, but heres the thing I said that if you want a reward you should A: not buy it , B: que up sync and actually clear the content sync.

    Ok people totally disagreed with this well fine if these items are that worthless and that insignificant then why not sell them as well whats the big deal about this. I use unsync but I will not accept any reward unless I have cleared that content sync first, because to me that is what is called earning the reward. So therefore if there is no such thing as earning a reward like everyone on this thread has stated then why not sell it on mog and give the game extra money, doing this wouldnt stop farming are anything its just another option.

    Im not trolling I do not troll, so I just took the clear statement of the people on this thread and asked does hard work in the game matter the answer was no. Should you have to clear content to get that reward you want sync the answer was no again. Is paying for a clear wrong the answer was no , ok so with all that being said basically that means none of it really matters. And if it does not matter then what is the issue with selling it to give the company more money the content is dead its a grave yard Ive heard this hw will be another grave yard just like arr is now.

    So with that being said why not have two options then, let people buy it when its outdated, and then if you wana run unsync you can as well. Has nothing to do with me having an item or not , has everything to do with at least the community on this thread has spoken and they basically said people should be able to have anything and everything that their hearts desire. So mog station is another way to make it even easier so in a sense im basicly agreeing with you guys. Because if they are worth nothing its no point in defending what Ive said about actually earning it , the player base has spoken and said that effort is a none issue. So because its a none issue unsync isnt going anywhere so why ,not make it even easier for those players who dont like to do things the hard way why not make it even easier for them.
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    *sigh*
    Because its not only about making this content easier - SE would hurt themself and this game a lot if they'd just take out rewwards. You dont get those rewards because its hard content you're doing but because its content at all you're doing. Look at how we have minion drops from normal dungeons like The Vault or Sohm Al. Look how we get music scrolls from content like Sastasha even!
    Its not (only) "Oh you did the hardest content in the game, here, have something special!" its "here, have a reason to do this content at all!"
    Even is a lot of people are joking about how this game is mostly dress-up (...okay, some might be serious about this), it isnt. Take the reward out of content and people will do it once or twice and then never again - look how they added ARR-EX-Primals to Wonderous Tails (as in: level 60 content) to make us run them again! Because special mounts, music and drops for furniture/barding/weapons werent enough! And yet you wanna take more incentive out of the game because you dont want to claim rewards for content you havent cleared snyched?
    I mean, thats your choice, sure, go ahead (you better hurry if you want the birds then...) - if thats how you enjoy the game, thats fine.
    That people also enjoy running/farming this content unsyched is also fine.

    (Also, please note: its not only about being able to clear that content. It took me 50+ kills of Ramuh EX to get that pony. I got it before HW. It was not fun... no, no, not at all... You're getting rewarded for your patience, not your skill.)

    For me, non of my mounts, minions or gear pieces has lost any of its value just becomes someone else got it aswell - but maybe I just enjoy the game more than being better than someone else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    *sigh*
    Because its not only about making this content easier - SE would hurt themself and this game a lot if they'd just take out rewwards. You dont get those rewards because its hard
    Im not talkin about players like you I repeat I said clear buyers, and those whom only run unsync content cause they dont wana run it sync for some reason or another. Again who said that anyone has to be better than anyone I didnt say that I was better than anyone. But people here are acting like earning something is a crime, so I bowed out fine it doesnt matter after all.

    So then why not ask the devs to place the oldest rewards in the game up for sale, the thing about mog is nobody has to buy anything on there its an option. So I really dont think it would do the damage that your sayin that it would people feel entitled to everything so it makes sense for them to eventually put it up for sale is all Im saying. Pony farms prob take up like 2 percent of game activities, they could just do it but every two expansions they could allow us to buy the mounts we missed. I dont see how on one hand you can say oh people should have what they want but when someone mentions let the game make some extra money off of this thats a no? I think this would be the perfect option for clear buyers and unsync only runners that way over time they wouldnt have to do either and get things they want by puttin even less effort in than before why would this be bad?

    @Nicodemus_Mercy paying for a clears is the weakest form of game play period, and thats the end of that I dont troll, its just cant beleive people are that lazy but whatever floats ur boat.
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    why does it bother you so much OP?
    like really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    why does it bother you so much OP?
    like really
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    The OP will give an answer and it wiil be a ridiculous answer, it's just his own personal feeling's on the matter, it doesn't really affect him but he chooses to let it affect him.
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