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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    I just guess I'm old fashion , I do case manager work at a homeless shelter and I cut no slack, I dont believe in hand outs if you arent doing anything for yourself. So I just have the same view point, about the game if someone wants to be a millionaire they put in the work to get its no easy way around it.

    But on here outside of the mentor mount everything is accessible for players that dont even try , and Id never tell anyone not to try and expect something in return. Its not about the mount are whatever being cool, its the steps toward how you got it , the birds are cool my friends have birds in the game Its just another item. But I respect my friends are anyone else riding a bird now because chances are they earned it from quing up and putting in the work. I have no respect for anyone buying a clear and being phony and a fraud but I guess thats just me.
    The Mentor mount doesn't always take as much work/effort as you think. There are easy ways to get that too that take zero effort.

    Bismarck, Ravana and even Thordan birds aren't very hard to get anymore.

    If you have friends that are good at the game, nothing is hard to get.

    The hard part is getting a good group together.
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    Last edited by Istaru; 01-28-2017 at 05:04 AM.
    #GetSelliBack2018

    Reading too much of the forums makes me very sad and apathetic.

  2. #172
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    Malzian's Avatar
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    The Mentor mount doesn't always take as much work/effort as you think. There are easy ways to get that too that take zero effort.
    Makes me wish I'd kept track of all the Guildhests I've gotten in mentor roulette... Has to be close to about 30 or 40% at this point.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I wasn't quite caught up on HW content to do .
    Thats totally incorrect you def havent been reading what I said higher itlvl is nothing compared to , ten levels over and triple damage you must of been reading other peoples post in here cause nerfs are not unsync runs. So def not by my gauge as intended just simply means level sync, to where you have some what of a challenge unsync is only a challenge if you are soloing the content. Im refering to people who would rather wait til storm blood to go pick up all the goodies and cowards who buy clears. Not anyone doing sync hw content now so def not bashing anyone like you.
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  4. #174
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    nerfs are not unsync runs.
    #alternativefacts

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    cowards who buy clears.
    Name calling is the fastest way to lose any remaining credibility.
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    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Im refering to people who would rather wait til storm blood to go pick up all the goodies and cowards who buy clears.
    tl;dr: OP hates people with a 'difference in playstyle' from their own, on content that is dated and blames own moral work ethic as to why.

    Bout sum it up?

    Honestly, who cares? Is it hurting your own progression in any shape or form? Are you unable to play the game because someone else plays or chooses to do so differently? No? Then stop trying to push your own biased agenda on what you 'think' is correct. This game caters to all types of players, so least you as a player yourself can do, is simply disagree, but yet understand there is more than just one way to play, and not make excuses as to why you 'think' they shouldn't deserve something, no matter how dated it is.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigabar View Post
    #alternativefacts



    Name calling is the fastest way to lose any remaining credibility.
    I do apologize I dont call people names but its very surprising how many people here support the buying of clears. And dont believe that there are levels to wat one should be able to obtain based on their skill level in the game.

    Thats just the competive nature of a game people that are more competitive dont need to be in the same category with earnings of people who dont. And this whole time Ive included myself in this , I know its content in the game I may never clear instead of thinkin I deserve it I will try and if I fail then it wasnt meant for me its just disgusting that others feel like they need things that is beyond their reach its just pure entitlement.

    And nerfed content is not the samething you keep saying this but its just a lie, go que up for any extreme primal any of them ten times unsync and then ten times sync and see the different. IF you dont see a difference then u are clearly just never gona see it. A nerf makes it less challenging than it was on the first day but its stil 1000s of times more challenging than unsync content bottem line its no way of gettin around it.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    tl;dr: OP hates people with a 'difference in playstyle' from their own, on content that is dated and blames own moral work ethic as to why.

    Bout sum it up?

    Honestly, who cares? Is it hurting your own progression in any shape or form? Are you unable to play the game because someone else plays or chooses to do so differently? No? Then stop trying to push your own biased agenda on what you 'think' is correct. This game caters to all types of players, so least you as a player yourself can do, is simply disagree, but yet understand there is more than just one way to play, and not make excuses as to why you 'think' they shouldn't deserve something, no matter how dated it is.
    Are I can take action and ask the devs why they allow people to buy content clears with gil and maybe see where that gil actually comes from
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  8. #178
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Thats just the competive nature of a game people that are more competitive dont need to be in the same category with earnings of people who dont.
    Ahhh... So this is the root of this entire thread... Just so we're clear on this, FFXIV is not fashioned as a competitive game. It is fashioned as a cooperative game. The point of playing is to help other people achieve goals, not beat other people out to things. It's the community, or rather specific parts of the community, that have taken what are supposed to be cooperative play components and turned them into competition.

    Let us be clear... Your concept that you are competing with anyone else for things in this game is entirely self established, it is your choice to view it in that way and feel the way you do about it. This does not mean, however, that the rest of the player base is obligated to feel the same way. Sorry to say, but you're never going to change the opinions of people who don't see the game the way you apparently do on this.
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    Last edited by Malzian; 01-28-2017 at 05:56 AM.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Are I can take action and ask the devs why they allow people to buy content clears with gil and maybe see where that gil actually comes from
    And pretty sure they will ask the same thing, "how is it negatively impacting the game 'as a whole collective', and not just you?"
    As for that lil subtle snub to saying people buying clears buy gil. Lol, that's going to be between the person buying and SE doing the investigation, all you'll get is someone with a simple (removed) tag as a username if you are that desperate/paranoid. Sides, not that hard to make gil, not by a long shot.
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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    ...earnings...pure entitlement...deserving...
    I want the A12S mount. Why? I think a Lalafell hanging off of it is hilarious. Will I raid for it? No. I do not find raiding enjoyable at this time. Will I buy a clear to get it? No. My gil has better use elsewhere. Will I judge people who would? No. It isn't any of my business. Will I eventually get it? Yes. How? Unsync, probably. Does that make me less of a player? No. A coward? No. A player with other priorities? Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Are I can take action and ask the devs why they allow people to buy content clears with gil and maybe see where that gil actually comes from
    Are we now assuming players with excess gil are all gil buyers? How deep will you dig your hole?
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    Last edited by Zigabar; 01-28-2017 at 06:03 AM.
    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

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