Why is game entitlement a thing and people think they deserve every item in the game?

[AlphaFox]

How is it nothing wrong with it , if you cant handle the content then you don't deserve the clear, buying a clear should be just as bad as rmt.

You'd think but its the same as the real world, you shouldn't be able to sway someone with money but the right price comes along and they may, meaning money is the big talker over skill. Honestly thought you were going to be talking about people complaining about past rewards not being able to be gotten now but honestly this whole deal of buying wins has been as far back as Titan EX to my knowledge.

[bswpayton]

If someone EARNS their gil, and they choose to buy a clear, that's their prerogative. I mean, some clears for savage go for anywhere from 10-40m on my server. If someone earned that

Its is a difference in it just being like a minion you can sell, if its not an untradable item then there is nothing wrong with someone buying it. It was designed that way so its nothing wrong with that, but you cant sell other mounts that have to be earned and those you have to earn shouldnt be by carry are paid for.

Just because you pay a sub doesnt mean you deserve all the items in the game thats like saying that you should be able to craft four star things crafts yet you didnt even level your crafters. Its tons of mounts and other rewards that you can get without trying to pry into content you have no business doing if you have to buy a clear from it. You have beast tribe mounts, you can get mounts from mog station, gold saucer mounts, if you arent a skilled player then these are the rewards you deserve whats wrong with accepting this until you can get better to get the harder rewards in the game.

[ManuelBravo]

I completely understand were your coming from. It's a matter of ethics, people who by clears deep down know it's the same a buying gill. They claim not to do it, but deep down they only fool themselves. If an FC helps it's members it's a different story or perhaps do it do to not enough people doing it anymore. But in MMO it's normal.

[Lexia]

Oh you talking about outdated content stuff that still in the game? I thought it was going to be another one of those threads about like limited event items from like season events or pre-order items.

[Laerad3993]

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The fact it isn't a bannable offense makes me disagree with you. If they didn't want things proceeding this way after 4 years, they'd have put a stop to it.

So, I disagree.

Should I also have to farm out all the items for my relic steps, and level the proper classes to create the HQ items to turn in to progress, like with 210, because other people did it that way? If it's acceptable in 98% of the game for everything else, I don't see any reason other than being prideful/greedy that someone would think this should be off limits.

I don't like that people can go onto the mogstation and buy event items from 2013-2015 that were unobtainable once over, but you don't see me on here trying to justify why they shouldn't have it in my mind.

[bswpayton]

I see. You're trying to mask the whole "I hate unsynced" thing behind appealing to an entitlement argument. Well, you can't fool me.

Im not trying to fool anyone this goes for revelent content now as well I had someone on my server the other day in nn asking to buy a clear. Someone posted on here even tho they were joking but I know it goes on , about buying a clear if you can not do certain content then its so many other rewards you can get in the game that fit where you are at in the game. The requirement for any reward should be one clear sync , then you have access to the reward I dont hate unsync but I do not agree with people thinkin just cause they pay a sub they deserve all the good stuff.

[dragonseth07]

I completely understand were your coming from. It's a matter of ethics, people who by clears deep down know it's the same a buying gill. They claim not to do it, but deep down they only fool themselves. If an FC helps it's members it's a different story or perhaps do it do to not enough people doing it anymore. But in MMO it's normal.

The same as RMT? Holy crap, man. I think you might be the one fooling himself.

[Riardon]

"I pay every month it means I can command the devs as my slaves and demand everything the game has to offer without any effort so I can be a "Pro" uber expert and gid gud anyone in PF."
It was always like this in gaming. Over the last years where online gaming took off it's way easier to do this. Helps a lot you can hide anonymously behind digital female curves and harass everyone in order to feel more important than you do in your real life. Lots of people want everything without any effort. Itemz plz. It's the same people complaining that the game is too hard just because they wiped in Dun Scaith on their first ever run. It's always about nerfs and give people what they want so they can make money. I don't blame them. They do what the majority asks and wants. Keep asking for challenging content and you shall have it.

[bswpayton]

I'm talking about everything, old new all of it.

[Istaru]

Why is it a problem if a player is better than you are at the game, as long as they are not some rude elitist. What I mean is to me if a player has a better skill set than I do at doing certain content in the game I am totally fine with them having better rewards than me.

I don't think there is a problem with one person being better at a video game than someone else. I think it is the balancing of people who want tangible rewards that show their prowess against the people who feel belittled due to the jackwagons who like to rub that status in other people's faces. They are not the majority of group A, but are very vocal about their accomplishments and remind others how awesome they are. Group B also wants tangible rewards for their time too.

But what I'm seeing is alot of players that dont wana put in the work but yet believe they deserve the same rewards as those whom do. For instance I didn't even know buying clears was a thing thats just sad if you cant play certain content to where you have to buy it then why even attempt the content its out of your league do things that is in your league instead. I had another post even with mounts where players feel like they deserve certain mounts from primals or something that they didnt even try are have the desire to do sync at least once but yet they feel like they deserve a mount for those who did but why tho? Are someone said in another thread that people are waiting to get titles from Alexander when it goes unsync, why would someone even want a title they dont really deserve.

There is a lot going on with this paragraph.

As far as buying clears, I don't have an issue with it for a couple reasons. Raiding can be expensive. It is an opportunity for them to make a monetary return on their time investment. Should crafted gear be relegated to crafters only? The raider who purchased that gear did not put in the time or effort or expense to master that content. Why should they get the rewards? It goes both ways and in the case of a crafter buying a clear from a raider, it's a closed loop system. Crafters get money from raiders so they can raid and the crafter gives money to get clears from them.

I have a very nice house IRL, I have not done most of the work to renovate the house. I paid other people who are better skilled than I to do that work. I reap all the benefits and the neighbor visits to tell me how pretty the house looks afterwards. I didn't do the work, but I get the rewards. The contractors do too, it's the money I paid them.

The sync/unsync debate has happened here many times already. This is a vertical progression game. In every vertical progression game, all content gets easier over time. I would be happy if they made rewards (minions, mounts, titles, gear, etc) to be sync only. There are more people who want the unsync rewards than the people who want them to be level locked. As far as deserve or not deserve, SE has spoken about that very clearly. Unsync clears yield full benefits/loot, SE has determined that they deserve them. Again, we can feel however we want about it, personally, I think rewards should be unsync only, but I am not in charge.

Im totally agaisnt rude players that think they are better than everyone, but Im also not for players that think they deserve rewards that they didnt earn. If time spent and paying a sub is all it takes to get the best rewards the game has to offer then why are they even rng based why not just give them away like we get a free company chocobo? Is it really that hard to accept that you didnt deserve something in a video game?

They are RNG based to make you spend more time to get them. More time = more sub money. Simple as that.

If they made many of the changes that some of us have asked for, all non-savage content to be harder, required EX clears for relics, much weaker welfare gear and more. We would probably have a much smaller subscriber base. Which would mean that we would get less content to play than we do now.

Which is better?

I'm not sure.