Dislike the chat change to PvP? like this post and get our voices herd,also other PvP

[Ama_Hamada]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4007914
42 likes wow, lets show our support, I am posting this thread to make sure it is easy to find, along with some others that are important to PvP


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4008083
I posted that because what I said here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4007704
pretty sure those problems exists because of innate lag issues that SE is ignoring. Regardless you can see them in every aspect in the game and hope that one is herd. Or at least HOPING, they are upgrading servers and getting between with this issue for 4.0 since they are hiking the computer requirements and dismissing the PS3. But ya I really hope this reaches their ears

There is also this:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4009076
This can effect SCH play in PvP, and maybe it is just my issue but I am tried of it despawning when you move too far away from her, can we get an auto follow? would that be a good question for the thread?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4007751
What do you think of this question in regards of PvP? with the range LB, I seen sometimes I would run out of it or it was casts while I was moving, it would auto turn in hit me, other times it would miss me. Again I think seeing that has to do with innate lag issues of the game but, would you like to see this change to help pvp? what do you think?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4007896
This is another big one for me, WHY have PvP stats and materia if it just does not work????? can we have more ARMORY SPACE to hold PvP gear? For example, to hold all PvP jobs, all PvP, crafting, gathering, you need around 40-50 slots, what about the new jobs? how much of an issue is that a concern for you?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4008303
was this ever answered? from my understanding people are assuming it is permanent?

Last PvP related post I found:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4009158

I thought it would be helpful to point out all the PvP posts to make them easier to find, get them more likes if they are important to you and not just have them keep being repeated

Here is another PvP issue I just remembered:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4009401
inspired by:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Hall-of-Novice
and:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...from-the-roots.

I was going to post:
Will there be Unrated 4 on 4 - Solo for PvP?
When people are coming into a RANK mode, not having any background on PvP due to the lack of transparency, it can increase conflict of new and experienced. This happens because the experienced do not want to rank down because someone does not know what to do, while some new people to PvP can get defensive and think they know it all from having fast PvE experience.

but I reached my limit, while I wait for that, can I ask is that worded well in your view? can someone post it for me?

[Chronons]

Not to sound like a pessimist, but I honestly don't believe liking this will help any. Some of the threads regarding this issue have gotten HUGE support going back since before the change was implemented. SE has chosen to pander to the casual majority with this issue. Namely, the new players and the bad players who cant handle the "toxicity" of pvp. Their blatant lack of concern regarding the issue, as displayed by the absence of a response and the moving of threads from mainstream view, should be telling enough for the dedicated pvp player base.

The only way you will get a response from them is to do something about it. Saying things in the forum doesn't seem to be working. Set up a boycott on the Feast. Don't let the people who support the chat change ride your coattails to their precious mounts. Set up your own tournament system for the dualing arenas. You don't need SE to set up a ranking system for you.

My point is SE isn't going to act as long as they don't stand to lose anything. Even if we are vocal here on the forums, if everyone just grits their teeth and plays anyway, then you will see no reversal. The reason you see responses and changes to things like exclusive minions is because it means widespread unhappiness and invariably a loss of money to SE. The pvp community is too small and likely too dedicated to pvping to elicit such a response without concerted effort.

If people want to post to vent, I get that. But to pretend that it will have any kind of persuasion power over SE alone is disingenuous I think.

[TiramisuMacaron]

“Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm.”

[DWARF_INTENSIFIES]

this is like your fourth thread on this subject. never change.

[Chronons]

the great Winston Churchill

“You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.”

[TiramisuMacaron]

“You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.”

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...56200648212482

[Chronons]

snip

lol you have a problem with quotes attributed to Albert Einstein?

oh....uh... herp...derp

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...mBFDInUyfsiKwA

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I see you edited your post to remove your condescending statements, how telling. Ill leave my ironic rebuttal as is for the sake of transparency.

[Ama_Hamada]

Not to sound like a pessimist,but I honestly don't believe liking this will help any. Some of the threads regarding this issue have gotten HUGE support going back since before the change was implemented. SE has chosen to pander to the casual majority with this issue. Namely, the new players and the bad players who cant handle the "toxicity" of pvp. Their blatant lack of concern regarding the issue, as displayed by the absence of a response and the moving of threads from mainstream view, should be telling enough for the dedicated pvp player base.

The only way you will get a response from them is to do something about it. Saying things in the forum doesn't seem to be working. Set up a boycott on the Feast. Don't let the people who support the chat change ride your coattails to their precious mounts. Set up your own tournament system for the dualing arenas. You don't need SE to set up a ranking system for you.

My point is SE isn't going to act as long as they don't stand to lose anything. Even if we are vocal here on the forums, if everyone just grits their teeth and plays anyway, then you will see no reversal. The reason you see responses and changes to things like exclusive minions is because it means widespread unhappiness and invariably a loss of money to SE. The pvp community is too small and likely too dedicated to pvping to elicit such a response without concerted effort.

If people want to post to vent, I get that. But to pretend that it will have any kind of persuasion power over SE alone is disingenuous I think.

hey it is up to 48 likes, so I am sure it helped somewhere XD
plus i wanted talk about other things i found in that thread that people don't seem to talk about as much like range lbs and sch pet positioning

[KusoWat]

Not to sound like a pessimist, but I honestly don't believe liking this will help any.

You're right, doing nothing would be much better! /s

Many of the changes we've seen in PvP over the years have been at the outspoken request of the players.

[Ama_Hamada]

You're right, doing nothing would be much better! /s

Many of the changes we've seen in PvP over the years have been at the outspoken request of the players.

thanks, here I posted my final question I was trying to do:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4009962