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    Player Brian_'s Avatar
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    You do realize that before ARR, there was also an entire story in 1.0, too?

    I don't see how isolating Stormblood's story the same way they did ARR's story would create issues.

    I didn't play in 1.0. I didn't go through the calamity. I'm sure there are a lot of references and additional character depth (like the entire thing between Thancred and Minfilia) that I won't understand. That doesn't stop me at all from enjoying ARR and HW.
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    really...another post....

    anyway, here is some comments from Yoshida from a recent interview for 3.5 and other stuff including a question about jump potions.

    Cry as much as you like that it's not required, but it's time to face reality and just live with it.

    Link to the translated interview

    I'll just copy and paste what was discussed and you can all make up your opinion on the matter.

    Q: The jumping potion really divides the players?

    Y: There are players that think that all new players will buy jumping potions and get to level 60. I wanted to clear that misconception up. Also, there is no gathering or crafting jumping potions, so it won’t have any influence on the economy of the game. Besides, even if players use the jumping potion, they won’t be at the level cap immediately. They still have to do the last part of leveling by themselves. The price of the potion is also quite high, so not everyone will be able to buy it, nor will it be given out lightly. We have data from the Korean and Chinese versions, too, so we will make final decision by the end of January on whether we will implement the potion in 4.0 or at a later time.

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  3. #93
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    Q: In Wow, many players gave up because they were suddenly level 90 or 100 and had no idea what to do. How will you handle that if it happens to FFXIV?

    Y: When it comes to FFXIV, the Main Scenario Quests are in some ways tutorials because it is based on solo play. I also know that there are players who want the users of the potions to be forced into doing dummy trials.

    Yoshida also commented that the potions will not be available until after 4.0 is released.

    now, can we all just put this stupid debate to bed and get on with it?
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    "Never forget 90k" - August 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    The story is part of the game. If you don't want to experience that, then perhaps you don't want to play the game.
    Fishing is part of the game. If you don't want to experience that, then perhaps you don't want to play the game.
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    It doesn't get you to Max Level and gear you, so by far its NOT pay to win. You still have to level and gear up at current content.
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    I did my EX quests for the first time and the 2.0 pacing was real. Yeah, go run through this full aggro zone (which thankfully isn't a problem at 60) on foot to re-attune to the aetheryte. I had shell shock flashbacks of the ARR pacing and nah, I wouldn't wish that on anyone who doesn't wanna suffer through it.
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    I realy dont get it.
    You want to buy a game + 2 expansions. Pay sub for it. Then pay more to not play 90 - 99% of it?
    Why you even geting in to mmo if you dont want to play the game.its never the most fun at the 2-5 tthing you can even do at mmos end game.
    What next ,f2p becouse new players dont want to pay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    You do realize that before ARR, there was also an entire story in 1.0, too?
    You are right that there are a few things that you missed, but the devs deliberatly designed the story of 2.0 onwards so that 1.0 isn't relevant. The only bits that were slightly relevant were the things with Nael, and the fact that Nael could well have never been mentioned again (coil story was meant for the 1.0 players) shows how irrelevant it was. Hell... the scions got convenient amnesia when the calamity blew 1.0 to smithereens. 4.0 is different, and there are many loose plot threads from 2.0 and 3.0 that will be relevant in 4.0.

    Would you like for them to make 4.0 like 2.0 where they make everything that came before it irrelevant for the sake of a jump potion? Because I wouldn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by BakaChin View Post
    Q: The jumping potion really divides the players?

    Y: I wanted to clear that misconception up.
    He really didn't clear my concern up though. He talks about levelling, I am talking about narrative. His data is also not perfect as the western audience plays the game very differently from the eastern audience, and we have very different mindsets.

    Quote Originally Posted by BakaChin View Post
    Q: In Wow, many players gave up because they were suddenly level 90 or 100 and had no idea what to do. How will you handle that if it happens to FFXIV?

    Y: When it comes to FFXIV, the Main Scenario Quests are in some ways tutorials because it is based on solo play. I also know that there are players who want the users of the potions to be forced into doing dummy trials.
    Again, talking about the levelling potion, not the story potion. I have no issue with the levelling potion so long as it is limited to one per character (no "I want to pay for all jobs to be max" please), but the story potion presents a strange solution to a problem that only causes more problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by BakaChin View Post
    can we all just put this stupid debate to bed and get on with it?
    This is a very important debate about something that could potentially be good for the game, or kill the game dead (both sides have merit). You might not care, but a lot of people do, and it will affect the game we all care about. People will keep debating until a verdict is reached, and you can sit idle and not contribute if you don't want to, that is your right.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 01-16-2017 at 02:17 PM.

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    It is coming out regardless of what the community says. Is it, "the end is nigh"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    I did my EX quests for the first time and the 2.0 pacing was real. Yeah, go run through this full aggro zone (which thankfully isn't a problem at 60) on foot to re-attune to the aetheryte. I had shell shock flashbacks of the ARR pacing and nah, I wouldn't wish that on anyone who doesn't wanna suffer through it.
    If you and lots of people here think it so much suffer to play this game i really wonder why are you even paying for it?
    As some one that lvling now its not so bad or slow.hell i mostly do the msq and it was all i need as exp go.not like you need to do the extra quests.
    The only problem are aome of the people in df.
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