I know it's been talked about, but seriously. No Jump Potions, here is why.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Saying not everyone is moved by the scenes in the game works as much against your argument as for it. If you and others see it as nothing more than a cartoon, that is fine. That has no bearing on the fact that it is a story, and many people are moved by them in one format or another. That is why they exist.

But that wasn't his point. People who don't care about the story aren't ever going to care. They just want to play the game itself or play with friends. The jump potion allows them to skip ahead to what they fancy while not impacting those who do wish to experience the story.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

On a separate note, the jump potion is a necessary evil due to how content is structured in FFXIV. You cannot expect new players to grind through two full games worth of dated content just to access the actual relevant stuff. This is especially true when alternatives exist which offer their respective endgames significantly faster. Consider the story an equivalent grind, albeit still less daunting, to Black Desert or Blade & Soul's upgrade grind. If you aren't interested in the content itself, nothing will make it better. I, for instance, found B&S incredibly dull and only sporadically touch BDO because friends of mine play it. I wouldn't ever play either competitively because the grind to relevant gear bores me. For those disinterested in XIV's story, they feel the same way. The benefit XIV has though is gameplay and story are not connected. You can fancy one without the other. XIV needs to appeal to all potential players, and a jump potion allows for that. It further alleviates the dev team's likely concerns of expanding story content. After all, with a skip option, most people going through the story properly actually want to. Therefore, they won't need to consider trimming down quests or character interactions because some players may get bored.

Ideally, they would go back and adjust requirements or some such to remove the issue of gated content entirely. But I suspect that is a costly venture or one they simply aren't willing to explore since it would upset the linear storytelling XIV focuses on. So we are left with a jump potion. I do think it was a mistake not bundling it with Stormblood though. I suppose that will happen come 5.0.

[ErikMynhier]

Saying not everyone is moved by the scenes in the game works as much against your argument as for it. If you and others see it as nothing more than a cartoon, that is fine. That has no bearing on the fact that it is a story, and many people are moved by them in one format or another. That is why they exist.

And that works against your argument. Those moved by story won't buy the Jump Potion so.... who cares? Not me, its a videogame. If I was new I would skip it then read a wiki. I'd be like, "Pretty cool." Just like 1.0, I and many who joined in beta for 2.0 never did a lot of those missions. I missed it all, and when it came up I read a wiki and watched a few CSs on youtube. Those who care don't have to skip, those who just want to rock Red Mage can. Its an option, not a gun to your head.

[Kazrah]

I fail to understand how this proves anything. Not everyone desires an alt, and I believe many who are against JPs just don't want brand-spanking new subscribers to have access to them, and are ok with alts using them.

It's called "walking a mile in a newbie's shoes". Also with the Jump Potions, their plan from what I saw was to force you through the Cliff's Notes version of the main story, which given how much there is, doesn't necessarily mean it'd take "seconds"....not really a bad thing.

As for the job-based jump potions, as long as they have them like WoW has with level boosts involving something scenario-based to provide some basics, then I'd be in full support of it for those "brand-spanking new subscribers" mostly because there is no possible way that you can outlevel stupid.

[Kosmos992k]

I dislike jump potions, but I can see the reasons for them. Players joining at StormBlood will have 4 years worth of game to work through just to play current content with their friends. That's a bit of a mountain.

The jump potions do nothing more than allow new players to start at the same base level as everyone else. They don't get the same gear or collectibles as a veteran has, but they can play with their friends from the start. It's not pay to win, it's pay to play with friends.

[Gemina]

But that wasn't his point. People who don't care about the story aren't ever going to care. They just want to play the game itself or play with friends. The jump potion allows them to skip ahead to what they fancy while not impacting those who do wish to experience the story.

The story is part of the game. If you don't want to experience that, then perhaps you don't want to play the game. At least not as intended. From my experience, those who "just want to play the game", skip the cut scenes and don't care about the story are the least likely to stick around long term. If anyone wants to talk about keeping the game going, the players that DO care are the ones doing that. Whether you cancel your sub or not, if you're not logging in, you're not playing the game.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The story is part of the game. If you don't want to experience that, then perhaps you don't want to play the game. At least not as intended. From my experience, those who "just want to play the game", skip the cut scenes and don't care about the story are the least likely to stick around long term. If anyone wants to talk about keeping the game going, the players that DO care are the ones doing that. Whether you cancel your sub or not, if you're not logging in, you're not playing the game.

Half of the people I play with skip cutscenes, and have been playing since 2.0 launched. They just ask me when something comes up they care about lol.

[Ilan]

I just wait for the day when more potions will hit the game. Can't wait for "max level", "all content including savage cleared" and "full BiS" potions. That would make our playtime much more fun.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I just wait for the day when more potions will hit the game. Can't wait for "max level", "all content including savage cleared" and "full BiS" potions. That would make our playtime much more fun.

Can we get a less duplicate topic and more constructive feedback on the forums potion?

[Gemina]

Half of the people I play with skip cutscenes, and have been playing since 2.0 launched. They just ask me when something comes up they care about lol.

Nice. Half of my guild hasn't logged in since patch 3.2 with a promise to come back. Most of them also came along with 2.0, sooooo...