I know it's been talked about, but seriously. No Jump Potions, here is why.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I wonder how many players who are against the JPs because people wont understand the story, of those people how many have yelled at new players in the past, "HEY! Skip the CS, you can watch them in the INN!" I guess the story is vital until it gets in their way.

I pretty much said the same thing. If you are going to tell people to skip everything, then why get upset at an item that lets them do just that? Remember when Heavensward was announced and people got upset over having to beat all of 2.0 to access it? Guess what those people were told?

"If you don't like it, then don't play."
"Just skip all the cutscenes, you'll get to the end faster."
"I did all this content, thus you have to as well."

See a trend here?

[bswpayton]

The reason for that is because I became invested though my adventures, though the hours of grinding, though the story. I would make the case that

You mention wow well wow still destroys this game in profit and Ive never even played it, I love this game its my home but this is just business for SE. And I want to see this game dominate mmos because it deserves it , this game is too progression based to not have a jump potion new content only last for months at a time. SE just wants to be competitive in their respective market and we shouldnt knock them for it.

[Yeol]

Just to clear "Pay to Win" part.

You are not buying something that will make your character stronger than any other player out there.
You are buying time.

That is not considered pay to win. Because even if the player did not buy the jump potion it changes nothing.

[Gemina]

I wonder how many players who are against the JPs because people wont understand the story, of those people how many have yelled at new players in the past, "HEY! Skip the CS, you can watch them in the INN!" I guess the story is vital until it gets in their way.

I can't speak for others, but I personally have not ever told anyone to skip a CS and I don't mind and encourage that they watch every single one. However, I would wager that most who are against JPs have a similar mindset.

Now I have a question that I am wondering about: How many new subscribers after JPs are implemented will ask about what happened to General Raubahn's arm? Sure you can just tell them, but then also try to remember the emotions you experienced while watching those final cut scenes. Could you feel his pain as your own? Emphasize with it? Those 100 MSQs were arduous, painful, drawn out, and TOTALLY worth it.

[MistyMew]

I am really hoping these potions make it into the game for us to purchase. I have quite a few alts that I would use these on.

I understand they may not make it live, that's ok too, BUT my true hopes are that they make it live , most definitely!!!

[Dreggit]

The only concern I have would be wether or not using jump potions would unlock roulettes because to run a dungeon (regardless what it is) to have no knowledge of it or how to play your class can be a very unfun experience for others.

[RubenSnizzle]

The only concern I have would be wether or not using jump potions would unlock roulettes because to run a dungeon (regardless what it is) to have no knowledge of it or how to play your class can be a very unfun experience for others.

Not knowing a dungeon/trial is fun, learning it for the first time and discovering it is fun, maybe you're one of those slob that waits on video to be up on youtube because you're insecure when doing new things, but im not.

As for people that don't know how to play their class, they are every where, even today, level 60 ppl don't know how to play properly, so that won't change even with the jump potion.

[Callinon]

The only concern I have would be wether or not using jump potions would unlock roulettes because to run a dungeon (regardless what it is) to have no knowledge of it or how to play your class can be a very unfun experience for others.

People run dungeons for the first time all the time, most of them without looking up the dungeon beforehand. Somehow we all muddle through. Actually on Tuesday we're all about to do it again, all of us will be running a couple dungeons and a trial for the first time. I suspect we'll be ok.

[Kazrah]

Better idea: a challenge for the naysayers that are opposed to jump potions.

Make an alt, level just one job to 60, do the MSQ up to the current end, AND WATCH EVERY SINGLE CUTSCENE AS THEY COME UP RATHER THAN AT THE INN.

If you do it, then CONGRATULATIONS! You will be living proof that jump potions might not be all that necessary, but it you so much as look at your main, you have to delete it. Now go! Go! Go!

[Dreggit]

Not knowing a dungeon/trial is fun, learning it for the first time and discovering it is fun, maybe you're one of those slob that waits on video to be up on youtube because you're insecure when doing new things, but im not.

As for people that don't know how to play their class, they are every where, even today, level 60 ppl don't know how to play properly, so that won't change even with the jump potion.

Heyheyheyheyhey. No need to be mean. I have no problem with anyone learning a dungeon/trial/raid or anything. The point I was making, or trying to, is that when you are leveling up a class you learn how to play your class as you go through the dungeons and trials available.

I've made statements before that I am a newer player and I do rather enjoy playing dungeons and trials without prior knowledge of it and learn to do said things while running it. The main difference however between me being new to an instance and someone who uses a jp and is also new, I know how to do the basic functions of my class/job where as the guy using the jp may not and that is what would make a run unfun.


I have done all the AR Trials synched without video aid (yet to do Ifrit, Shiva and Laviathen Ex though)

You can run Ramah Ex all you want and learn the mechanics of the fight to its entirety but if you do not know how to play your job it frustrates everyone else.

The other concern I suppose I would have is wether or not a player would have access to the Novice Network. The NN is an incredibly good resource for information with mostly helpful advice and good people. I would want people who start and use a jp to have access to that so that they can learn their job because when is was learning mine it was rather confusing to get a good rotation going until a mentor helped me come up with a proper rotation. But as it stands you lose access to NN once you enter Ish gard so I would think that the criteria would need to be redefined in some way to help novices do use jps.