So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Alleo]

In the end the discussion about dancer as a possible job is exactly the same about it being a Blue Mage because "reasons". I mean this whole thread is about the speculation of a shirt with the wildest reasons, yet somehow people that speculate that the girl is a dancer are the worst?

We dont know anything. They could turn around and make four new jobs (Red, Blue, Samurai, dancer) or we will only get two. Maybe the girl is a dancer but we wont get it as a new job. Or maybe we are all wrong and the next class is something completely different. But Yoshida wants some discussion for this so why are some people trying to stop it? Its really funny to read some speculation and as long as its without any hurtful comments why not just let people speculate whatever they want? And if its about wrong information one can still counter it but why try to be so aggressive about it?

I am happy about any class we get as long as its fun to play. At the same time I enjoyed reading all the reasons in this thread until it somehow turned away from being a funny, simple discussion to people putting others down for their opinions..If you dont think that its going to be class X because reason Y..well thats fine. But why try to change peoples mind? Why not ignore it and just post your own speculation about the next reveal? Its really sad. :/

[TarynH]

But why try to change peoples mind? Why not ignore it and just post your own speculation about the next reveal? Its really sad. :/

It's not so much changing peoples' minds, but narrowing down the speculation. For instance, Yoshida shot down puppetmaster in an interview several months ago. He also kind of shot down the wild speculation of Sam Raimi, by saying Spider-man had more than one director. Then went on to say it related more to Spider-man's story. Well... his story happens to be closer to Blue Mage than Dancer. Peter Parker wasn't an aspiring Michael Flatley. He got bit by a spider and gained its powers. This thread is specifically asking what the Spider-man shirt means. Not what jobs do you think we'll get?

Speculation is all well and good, but so is context. Could we get dancer? Quite possibly yes. (Although I personally speculate that it doesn't relate to the shirt.) So we go back to a possibly inaccurate CGI trailer that doesn't even feature game play. Could Yda (or her sister) have knowledge of a dance-like fighting style? Yes. Could it be that Yda followed one path of a monk fighting style, while her sister followed another? Again, yes. Could it be that the CGI trailer isn't accurate in the least, and even the previous questions are reading too much into that? Yes. (I won't even address the possibility of Yda's tattoos being "hidden" under that necklace.) Would I like dancer? Sure, but I don't see how Spider-man relates. (I mean really... agility? That's it? He only got that because of the spider bite. So it's still a BLU imo.)

You do realize that even the people saying "not gonna happen" are also speculating? They're merely giving an opposing view as to what they see and hear. They know as much (or as little) as anyone else here; as it pertains to what's coming next.

[Beckett]

He also kind of shot down the wild speculation of Sam Raimi, by saying Spider-man had more than one director.

I don't think the Sam Raimi thing is legit, but let's be clear: He didn't shoot down the idea, he just said just said that there have been multiple directors. Until the new job is announced officially, they're not going to confirm or deny anything. If someone had asked Yoshida about the 007 shirt saying, "James Bond is known for his use of guns and gadgets, is the next job related to that?" Yoshida might have responded, "Oh, but he's also known for his skills of seduction and enjoyment of martinis, isn't he?"

[Dorander]

In the end the discussion about dancer as a possible job is exactly the same about it being a Blue Mage because "reasons". I mean this whole thread is about the speculation of a shirt with the wildest reasons, yet somehow people that speculate that the girl is a dancer are the worst?

We dont know anything. They could turn around and make four new jobs (Red, Blue, Samurai, dancer) or we will only get two. Maybe the girl is a dancer but we wont get it as a new job. Or maybe we are all wrong and the next class is something completely different. But Yoshida wants some discussion for this so why are some people trying to stop it? Its really funny to read some speculation and as long as its without any hurtful comments why not just let people speculate whatever they want? And if its about wrong information one can still counter it but why try to be so aggressive about it?

I am happy about any class we get as long as its fun to play. At the same time I enjoyed reading all the reasons in this thread until it somehow turned away from being a funny, simple discussion to people putting others down for their opinions..If you dont think that its going to be class X because reason Y..well thats fine. But why try to change peoples mind? Why not ignore it and just post your own speculation about the next reveal? Its really sad. :/

Where you are quite wrong is that there are things we "DO" know, and it seems that quite a few people have absolutely no idea what deductive reasoning skills are. You cannot twist facts to support a narrative that isn't there. Speculation isn't a blanket statement for: "I want this! So be damned the logic and facts!"

1: After Heavenward released Yoshi and team said they were never going to do 3-4 job releases that close together ever again, and at most, we'd get 2 at a time going forward. ROG/NIN with 2.4, DRK/MCH/AST with 3.0. So, with that "FACT" we know that we can only expect 2 jobs for this expansion. Not 3 or even 4.

2: Every single shirt 'tease' has been on the nose. Batman - Dark Knight. 007 - Machinist. Scarlet Witch - Red Mage. Spider Man DOES NOT equate dancer even in the slightest.

3: Not a single teaser trailer has ever 'showcased' a new job prior to it's announcement. It's entire purpose is to showcase the titular job of that expansion. Stormblood is all about Ala Mhigo and MONKS. Two Monks sparing on the Hand of Rhalgr. Not a Monk and a watered down monk clone in a flowy dress doing stylized "IN GAME" monk abilities. I guess if it quacks like a duck, it's gotta be a dancer right? That's just plain ignorance about martial arts there.. but whatever..

Those are the things we know and is what speculation should be focused around. Not wild theories that equate to: "I want this, so be damned the facts!"

Rampant ignorance is the only thing that people are trying to stop or stamp out. Because as my earlier post said: There will be people who come raging to the forums when dancer isn't announced (and It really won't be), wondering why it was cancelled because it was confirmed! All due to poorly informed "speculation and deductive reasoning."

[DBelmont]

Spider Man DOES NOT equate dancer even in the slightest

Normally yeah, but according to my theory before, it sadly does. If they combine Dancer with Puppetmaster, it will possibly feature strings so you get it from there. Again, I dislike that possibility.

[TarynH]

It's entire purpose is to showcase the titular job of that expansion.

Correct. As well as showcase the main NPC players on the stage. Heavensward was dragons vs dragoons, as well as the upheaval of the city states. All of which were represented in the trailer. (And if we want to talk about inaccuracies, look at the dragon in the HW CGI trailer.)

I believe the Stormblood trailer is showcasing monks (maybe even opposing philosophies of said monks) as well as Yda (or her sister) training to fight for her people. But that's just speculation.

[Blazinhart]

1. If I remember well Yoshi stated that we're not getting the same number of Jobs as HW, which means 3. Só we can get 2 or 4, even though I believe more in 2.

2: It can be related because DNC is a kind of acrobat and has a flexible body like Spiderman. Also the main weapon can be a Whip or a kind of string/fabric that comes from a bracer. Só though we DNC lovers are dying to get it, we're not doing so Just because of will, we are looking for things to base our believes.

[Dorander]

1. If I remember well Yoshi stated that we're not getting the same number of Jobs as HW, which means 3. Só we can get 2 or 4, even though I believe more in 2.

2: It can be related because DNC is a kind of acrobat and has a flexible body like Spiderman. Also the main weapon can be a Whip or a kind of string/fabric that comes from a bracer. Só though we DNC lovers are dying to get it, we're not doing so Just because of will, we are looking for things to base our believes.

We got 4 jobs in a very short time frame - ROG/NIN, DRK/MCH/AST. We are only getting 2 new ones for Stormblood.

Again, twisting fact to fit a non-existent narrative, and yes you are doing it out of sheer desire. As I said, ALL the teased jobs were on the nose. Minimal effort required to figure it out. AKA Occam's Razor. Spider man - Man bitten, given powers. Along with the constant push of the Red and blue theme, he's all but slapping us about the face with it. Though, again.. if it quacks like a duck.. must be dancer am I right?

[DBelmont]

Spider man - Man bitten, given powers. Along with the constant push of the Red and blue theme, he's all but slapping us about the face with it.

I want to agree, but he also said "spider-webber". That kinda focuses more into the web/string aspect of the job rather than the "how he got powers".

[RaijinSupreme]

I want to agree, but he also said "spider-webber". That kinda focuses more into the web/string aspect of the job rather than the "how he got powers".

But spiderman never takes control over his opponents with his web. He either immobilizes them, traps them, cause serious damage when using it as a projectile, or flings his opponent around. He never actually takes control over their limbs and uses them to attack others, like how puppetmasters do.

simply put, Spiderman isn't a puppetmaster himself, so I don't get how spiderman can actually allude to puppetmaster.