As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Feyona]

I see here is posts that state that healers got nothing else to do but dps in between healing, either your in low content, or your in good groups, the majority of groups Im in you dont get the space really, like I said I can perform to 'maximum efficiency' if im with a good healer and with a good team. I join alot of casual groups that do require both healers usually. I am a very active player that helps alot of people clear too. In my experience most groups need alot of healing, not dps. Many of you may just play with friends or statics, which is a completey different scenario

[AmalonStar]

Why does everyone want to remove Cleric Stance and make playing healers easier? CS is not glitched. If it does not drop when you want it to there are a many number of reasons for this.
1. Still on CD
2. Ping issues
3. Double click, which would reactivate it
4. Misclicking

Healing is already easy outside raiding, and I would not call it the hardest role to play in the game. Making them easier to play would make them boring. Why would you want to remove the biggest skill determinator the role has?

I do have to agree that using clerics is a good skill determinator. As for clerics not dropping I wasn't saying it was glitched and usually it's a result of one of the 4 reasons you had listed.

Usually when I find I'm in a spot where I have to be quick on heals that's when I don't use clerics when I dps, it's my safety net to avoid a weak cure when a big one was needed

[AlphaSonic]

I do not like the way cleric is designed, and most healers I speak to in game dont like It either...

You don't like cleric, we got it. That doesn't mean that everyone is like you, in fact, judging by this thread, most of the people here like cleric.

[Feyona]

Still here, eh? I'm looking forward to when you make a new thread asking for help on how to play SCH if you still plan on being a competitive Raider.

I was almost capped on acc but took some off cos Im wmg now. I have been 'trained' in scholar. Im working at it, but not using it for static atm. Dont really want to play hardcore Im just enjoying progressing in a11s. Which I feel our team is good enough to do.

[Rivxkobe]

I see here is posts that state that healers got nothing else to do but dps in between healing, either your in low content, or your in good groups, the majority of groups Im in you dont get the space really, like I said I can perform to 'maximum efficiency' if im with a good healer and with a good team. I join alot of casual groups that do require both healers usually. I am a very active player that helps alot of people clear too. In my experience most groups need alot of healing, not dps. Many of you may just play with friends or statics, which is a completey different scenario

This all depends though.

If you think everyone needs to be above 80% at all times? then yeah, you are going to be healing like mad. Especially if you think you need to heal a Tank if their hp drops below 100%.

However most content does not require this. Using every or most GCDs on healing is unneeded.

Anyway, I am confused by something. Why did you even try to do raids? You say you are a very active player but from your posts you are even more casual than I am and I have never stepped foot in a high-end raid. So its weird that you would even consider it, and then complain you don't like how elitist it is.

[Feyona]

You don't like cleric, we got it. That doesn't mean that everyone is like you, in fact, judging by this thread, most of the people here like cleric.

Maybe cos alot of people wont post on here that have different opinions because these are the kinds of responces you get

[Feyona]

This all depends though.

If you think everyone needs to be above 80% at all times? then yeah, you are going to be healing like mad. Especially if you think you need to heal a Tank if their hp drops below 100%.

However most content does not require this. Using every or most GCDs on healing is unneeded.

Anyway, I am confused by something. Why did you even try to do raids? You say you are a very active player but from your posts you are even more casual than I am and I have never stepped foot in a high-end raid. So its weird that you would even consider it, and then complain you don't like how elitist it is.

Some comments here are elitist like 'Im not playing with bad players' etc Im not complaining just stating a fact

[Judge_Xero]

I see here is posts that state that healers got nothing else to do but dps in between healing, either your in low content, or your in good groups, the majority of groups Im in you dont get the space really, like I said I can perform to 'maximum efficiency' if im with a good healer and with a good team. I join alot of casual groups that do require both healers usually. I am a very active player that helps alot of people clear too. In my experience most groups need alot of healing, not dps. Many of you may just play with friends or statics, which is a completey different scenario

While agree with your statement that good groups do make fights easier to DPS, it still makes me wonder why on your logs a SCH would need to cast Succor 22 times in A9S. Also with the large groups of mobs why a SCH would not cast 1 Bane. Visibly the WHM had the entire fight under control and due to the low gear level needed 2 Succor's for Acid Rain and Adlo for the Scrapline Tank Buster and possibly an Indom for the Faust AOE. The Fairy offered enough single target healing coupled with Rouse for when the Faust was out and Regens to sustain both Tanks.

Not to toot my own horn, but under near identical conditions I found the opportunity to perform 10X more damage back in Novemeber. This created a large reduction in the required TP for Melee Classes which in turn increased damage dealt directly to the boss and reduced fight time by 120 seconds.

I was almost capped on acc but took some off cos Im wmg now. I have been 'trained' in scholar. Im working at it, but not using it for static atm. Dont really want to play hardcore Im just enjoying progressing in a11s. Which I feel our team is good enough to do.

Awesome well I'm glad you are progressing well. A11 is the first large hurdle for most groups. ACC is still nice on WHM for any opportunities where you can DPS since the other secondary stats don't really do a whole lot in comparison.

[Feyona]

This all depends though.

If you think everyone needs to be above 80% at all times? then yeah, you are going to be healing like mad. Especially if you think you need to heal a Tank if their hp drops below 100%.

However most content does not require this. Using every or most GCDs on healing is unneeded.

Anyway, I am confused by something. Why did you even try to do raids? You say you are a very active player but from your posts you are even more casual than I am and I have never stepped foot in a high-end raid. So its weird that you would even consider it, and then complain you don't like how elitist it is.

I disagree Ive seen tanks drop from 100% to 0% in 2 secs frequently. and your judgement is that 'Im one of those healers' that has to keep everyone at 100%? I am raiding, yes surprisingly so. Just doesnt always have to be in an elitist way.

[Feyona]

While agree with your statement that good groups do make fights easier to DPS, it still makes me wonder why on your logs a SCH would need to cast Succor 22 times in A9S.

Not to toot my own horn, but under near identical conditions I found the opportunity to perform 10X more damage back in Novemeber.



Awesome well I'm glad you are progressing well. A11 is the first large hurdle for most groups. ACC is still nice on WHM for any opportunities where you can DPS since the other secondary stats don't really do a whole lot in comparison.

You referring to november one? Idk tbh why I cast succor in that fight 22 times cant remember tbh. Why is that relevant? Unless its meant to show Im not an expert player, and Ive already said that Im not.