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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    I mean, you're wrong, but ok.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    What a load of men are from mars, women are from venus clap trap that was.
    Not an actual counter argument, and if you honestly think there are no differences between men and women, you're not trying to look at the situation w/o bias. (plus it wouldnt make any sense for there to be no differences, it would hurt us as a species if anything.)
    Men and women are MORE alike, than they are different, but it only takes a small % difference, for a person to show favoritism in every day choices. (Most of these are as small as 5% difference, which is always debatable if there is error in the study, and then you have more obvious ones with differences of around 20%. But even 20% is a minor difference, yet enough to notice behavioral differences.)
    Your comment of from venus and mars doesnt even give proper context to yoru stance other than for me to assume you think Im of the opinion the sexes are more different than alike. If so, I feel quite the opposite. If that's not your stance on the subject, then I'd need clarification.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolys View Post
    All these women who paid to assist to Chippendales spectales must have not be aware of that
    This also isnt actually a counter argument if you understood what I was saying. (Maybe I didnt phrase it properly IDK, but I feel if I would be beating a dead horse, if I kept going on any more than I had.) While a SIGNIFICANT portion of women like the muscle men of Chipendales, a nearly equal number of women also do not.
    Its no where near as comparable to how many men like wide hips for example.

    I'm not saying they cant like it, but JUST doing it, to do it, isnt understanding why it does work for the few it does, and it wouldnt work for the majority of women. (By majority, I would say 51%)
    Then again, the audience that plays MMOs might differ, on average, from other women.

    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    So women are looking for providers and men are looking for dat ass. It's an explanation, to be sure, but still indicates a pretty vile double standard that is not kind to either gender.
    It's neither unkind, nor kind. If you look at the glass as half empty, then yes, it can apear as unkind to both.
    It's an evolutionary set of traits that helped us survive. (Also, its not really "dat ass". Everything both genders tend to like, tend to increase the overall likelyhood of survival of the species, even "dat ass", which are traits that increase the likelyhood the woman will survive. Which women would be pregnant with children for large portions of their lives, being both a bottle neck limiting the speed of reproduction, and also being worth the lives of 2 people, rather than 1. And if she needs protected, someone has to be the one to be the protector. So these traits were helpful in our continued survival.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Nandalowell View Post
    Personally, I see a half truth in this. Sure in real life I may not be attracted to muscles or half naked men.. Or elves, or catboys, or total jerks, or villians, or knights.. In game though, that is my eye candy. Bring on the half naked elves/catboys/gianthumanoids!

    It's not such a cut and dried science of men like this and women like this and that's why this is; I'm not looking for a potential mate in this fictional world, why should I be concerned with how well groomed a CG render is?
    Honestly a very good point to bring up. Something I would like to get to know and understand more, though I dont think I'd be able to do so here on the forums.
    EDIT: I actually recall one of the quotes from one of the studies that I think was the answer to this.
    A woman said there were some guys she didnt find attractive, yet would do anything to be able to sleep with these guys.
    It makes little sense with the way she phrased it, making it sound liek these men are attractive, yet "not" attractive.
    So she obviously finds the traits of a guy attractive enough to want them as partners, yet still finds a certain aesthetic attractive as well.
    Which is pretty normal.

    So I can only assume your general aesthetic tastes are why you like the "eye candy" of males in a game, w/o actually finding them attractive. (Based on you saying you're not looking for a mate, unless you were literal, and then that seems a bit odd to have said ^^; )

    But if you do find their visuals attractive, then that just went with what I said before, as to WHY those visuals are attractive. (We dont like visuals for no reason, there is a reason as to why we do.)

    Lastly to everyone
    , to clarify, I do agree there should be Scantily clad males for those who do enjoy it, as there will always be those who like just about every combination we can think of, and there's still a large enough portion of people who do want it, or we wouldnt be seeing threads like this in just about every MMO.
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    Last edited by Claire_Pendragon; 01-11-2017 at 06:17 AM.

  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Bosses with big boobs and/or little clothes:
    -Sophia
    -Garuda(because the Ixal like their women with boobs)
    -Cloud Of Darkness
    -Calistoferi
    -Echidna(a monster but still naked!)
    -Shiva
    -Dun Scaith Boss
    -Siren
    -Halicarnassus
    -Lady Adamantine
    -Scylla(Do they have to be there?)

    Bosses with boobs for some reason:
    -Arachne Eve
    -Belladonna
    -Twintania
    ^ jk..
    all these famous demons like siren, scylla and succubus should have been in fact naked so be happy that square censored them for you.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    all these famous demons like siren, scylla and succubus should have been in fact naked so be happy that square censored them for you.
    Welp, time to go home folks! Square put scraps of clothing on the female demons in their T rated game so they could get it published. I feel so blessed by this generosity. So moved! Now we really know they care about depicting female villains in unique and diverse ways!

    :P
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    Can someone explain to me how this thread that was about getting MORE nakedness (just, to be fair, for the other gender as well) turned into "OMG how dare you complain about too much female nudity!!"
    That's..not what the OP was about, unless my reading comprehension is completely failing me right now. No one says to dress Shiva, Garuda, Sophia, Echidna and Adamantine and so on more conservatively.
    No one even complains about pretty half-naked primals/monsters at all.

    It would simply be nice to see more primal/monster eye candy for those who find male bodies attractive instead of females.
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Can someone explain to me how this thread that was about getting MORE nakedness (just, to be fair, for the other gender as well) turned into "OMG how dare you complain about too much female nudity!!"
    That's..not what the OP was about, unless my reading comprehension is completely failing me right now. No one says to dress Shiva, Garuda, Sophia, Echidna and Adamantine and so on more conservatively.
    No one even complains about pretty half-naked primals/monsters at all.

    It would simply be nice to see more primal/monster eye candy for those who find male bodies attractive instead of females.
    This is precisely OP's point, indeed. No one is telling Garuda to put on a blouse before leaving the house. People were just like 'Hey, what about a male primal with more distinctly humanoid features being half naked too?' But here we are, alas, pages later devolving into talk about male NPCs, female malboros, pretending that Titan and Sephirot are equivalent, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    It would simply be nice to see more primal/monster eye candy for those who find male bodies attractive instead of females.
    Its probably along the same reason why people post pictures of NPCs even though the OP talked about bosses.

    (The following is for the thread in general and not meant at you)
    Yes we have eye candy on both sides with NPCs..but this is certainly missing with bosses. Why is it wrong to want more equality with bosses too? Why just accept that one part of the game is more equal, wouldnt it be better to have it in more places?
    Does it hurt anybody that instead of another monster hulk boss like Xande we have sexy male version of shiva? Or would that make too many men uncomfortable? (And if you say that it should stay that way because of this reason..well how it is okay that in this age we women should then be alright with sexualized female bosses?) I mean I am a woman and I have no problem with female bosses like Shiva, hey I like nice boobs the same as others. But it would be nice to have such a male versions too.

    Maybe some woman out there find bosses like Titan or Xande sexy..but imo there is not one little bit sexiness there, they are ugly in my eyes. I would even go as far and say that these bosses are also there for males, since seemingly having such muscle is "sexy"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Lakshmi is at least mostly clothed:
    Lol once she goes to 50 percent in health she'll probably change into something more breathable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    -snipped-
    All of this. Teen boys playing this game want to feel victory and conquer. What better way to do it than beating a hyper masculine muscle monster? They make up a good portion of the target demographic, so it just makes sense. Beat the big man, you're a big badass. And you're far from alone with thinking they're ugly.

    Where's my shirtless Sephiroth 2.0 Square? Or my KH1 Handsome Ansem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarehptar View Post
    Welp, time to go home folks! Square put scraps of clothing on the female demons in their T rated game so they could get it published. I feel so blessed by this generosity. So moved! Now we really know they care about depicting female villains in unique and diverse ways!

    :P
    Yeah coz the only thing that doesn't matter here is the personality of said villains... It' all about dat booty... Coz we know that's the only interesting character trait that a female could have is how she looks and how much cleavage she has.

    And beautiful women have no other qualities to them other than being beautiful. Shiva (an example like to be used here) has zero interesting backstory and may aswell be a one dimensional carboard cut-out coz she has the boobs. /sarcasm
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    Last edited by Underdog2204; 01-11-2017 at 05:05 AM.

  10. #180
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    Let's make it really simple.

    Give us more male bosses who look like the Mobius Final Fantasy guy.

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