Another Platform primal in 3.5, is this how all of them will be in the future jc?

[ckc22]

You'd be hard-pressed to find someone who will claim that they gained any sort of satisfaction out of completing a fight unsynced, while plenty of folks will get a rush from doing the same content synced, but not minimum ilvl. "Why bother to make it hard for yourself, when you can make it SUPER hard for yourself?" is a very thin argument.

I understand and respect folks who want to get a taste of what the fights were like back when they were still relevant.

Doing fights with everyone synced down to what would have been BIS gear isn't what it was like when it was "relevant" either. My point is that your "real clear" isn't "real" either - in the exact same way that someone clearing Thordan Ex in 260 right now for example isn't experiencing what the fight was like when it was relevant.

[bswpayton]

Doing fights with everyone synced down to what would have t.

But its still not the same thing to where you can ignore the mechanics competently, and do a fight that would take ten mins are more sometimes, and condense it into 2 or 3 mins there is a huge difference. Nobody is rage quiting unsync primals or abandoning them, people arent farming sync for the horses , they are doing that with unsync there is a major difference here. And this goes again to how you play the game maybe everyone doesnt want to rush to the very end of the game and just do their dalies , and farm the same raid again and again.

Maybe some people view this as a whole entire game not just 10 percent of a game, so Ill never be the first to clear anything simply because Id rather stretch out whats in front of me and always have things to do instead of rushing to endgame and focusing on two or three things at a time thats not fun to me.

[LineageRazor]

Doing fights with everyone synced down to what would have been BIS gear isn't what it was like when it was "relevant" either. My point is that your "real clear" isn't "real" either - in the exact same way that someone clearing Thordan Ex in 260 right now for example isn't experiencing what the fight was like when it was relevant.

Believe me, my time doing Mentor Roulette has made it very clear that there's a WORLD of difference between unsynced and max ilvl. Running these fights synced adds real challenge for newer players, particularly fights like Odin (healers' hell) and Ramuh (so much coordination needed). Max ilvl isn't going to save you from a mishandled Chaotic Strike or Glass Dance (to say nothing of Landslide).

No one said anything about trying to replicate the fights back when they were fresh and new and players with last patch's gear were struggling their way through. What many players want is the opportunity to see what it was like when mechanics MATTERED. For Final Fantasy fans, especially, battles against foes like Ifrit or Shiva or Ultima Weapon should be EPIC. These are icons of the franchise. Derping your way through the fight unsynced while the primals pelt you with pitiful scratch damage is simply not comparable to running the fight synced, even if the players are at max ilvl for the fight. I don't think that it's odd at all that players would want to see what these fights were like in their heyday, even if max gear ilvl (and echo!) gives them advantages in the fight that the original players didn't have.