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  1. #41
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    I have to agree. It feel very hectic but at the same time feels dead.

    There's no much to do over there than gathering or a couple of hunts... It feels irrelevant to the world.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    I'm assuming you have evidence to show the game is on the decline? and if you truly feel this way just unsub what's stopping you?.
    as of 3.4

    it shows how many players cleared said patch

    more in the link below
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...for_34_is_now/

    Why not unsub? I did and came back to the same thing. Criticism is a good thing I want this game to be better than the current games that have my attention and money, I probably wont sub again for the next patch and if 4.0 is the same formula, not gonna buy it.
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    Last edited by LalafellDown; 01-09-2017 at 09:22 PM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    it shows how many players cleared said patch
    More correctly, it shows how many characters have completed the main scenario quest to the point where they get a certain minion, which is a prerequisite to be found in the lodestone.

    I'm personally accounted for 3 times in the 3.3 progression line and not once in the 3.4 progression line for that reason. I do advise people to follow the reddit - it's has some interesting background information and historical comparisons. But that's something to be discussed in a different thread.

    As for Azys Lla, well...they did miss a lot of opportunities, but honestly? The zone itself is just background noise from airspace. Doesn't look as pretty as the background noise in Fore- or Hinterlands, admittedly, but uhm...I haven't seen much of it anyway since I just fly over everything once I have it unlocked and it might as well just be a loading screen background while I zoom in to wherever I need to go.
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  4. #44
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    ITT: "The game is on a decline because a random map that you go to for the MSQ at one point and some quests is empty. Also no dragons."

    But I mean like "Where are these dragons?". Some in instances? Because that's how XIV works. Did you also forget the numerous FATEs that have nothing but dragons? There's plenty in Churning Mists and Dravanian Forelands.

    Azys Lla isn't exactly wasted either... you're acting as if nobody goes there but I see tons of people there from time to time, doing:
    • Hunts
    • Gathering
    • Relic Quest
    • Sidequests
    • Triple Triad NPCs

    Just because you personally do not see anyone in the immediate vicinity, does not mean the area goes unused. That's just being ignorant.
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    Last edited by ErryK; 01-09-2017 at 10:10 PM.

  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    ITT: "The game is on a decline because a random map that you go to for the MSQ at one point and some quests is empty. Also no dragons."

    But I mean like "Where are these dragons?". Some in instances? Because that's how XIV works. Did you also forget the numerous FATEs that have nothing but dragons? There's plenty in Churning Mists and Dravanian Forelands.

    Azys Lla isn't exactly wasted either... you're acting as if nobody goes there but I see tons of people there from time to time, doing:
    • Hunts
    • Gathering
    • Relic Quest
    • Sidequests
    • Triple Triad NPCs

    Just because you personally do not see anyone in the immediate vicinity, does not mean the area goes unused. That's just being ignorant.
    Is "Tons of people" about 1-20 people in the map at a time? Cause in an area that big, I wouldn't dare call it "tons of people".
    I dare you to wander around every single map for at least one hour or two and tell me how many unique names of player-character you can find in each map.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrahn View Post
    Is "Tons of people" about 1-20 people in the map at a time? Cause in an area that big, I wouldn't dare call it "tons of people".
    I dare you to wander around every single map for at least one hour or two and tell me how many unique names of player-character you can find in each map.
    That still doesn't mean the map is empty? Which was the original point of the OP? So that kinda invalidates your post.
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  7. #47
    what's missing from Azya Lla that's in Coerthas West besides maps?
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  8. #48
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    ADAMANTITE ORE

    ...

    ...yeah, that's about it. That's the only reason to go to that zone.

    And I can't say I mind, because it's like the ugly stepchild of FFXIV environments. There are some pretty parts, here and there, but it is generally not a very attractive place to go.

    EDIT: It's really a shame they didn't do more with it, given the lore of the place. Unless I'm wrong, each island is supposedly a chunk of land from a different part of the globe, pulled in for its aetheric properties. They could have made it a DoL paradise (and also made it really pretty), but instead its ugly and we get Adamantite Ore.

    EDIT 2:
    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    what's missing from Azya Lla that's in Coerthas West besides maps?
    Beautiful aesthetic, beautiful (albeit haunting) music, NPCs and locations with plots independent of the MSQ, plenty of un-timed DoL nodes, and a dungeon that doesn't make me want to drop group every time I get it.
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    Last edited by Jpec07; 01-10-2017 at 02:00 AM.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyreil View Post
    I'm still waiting to see what happens with the Gration and the new Garlean emperor ever since Shiver froze it's engines. With as much time that has gone by, I would think they have defrosted by now. The whole thing with the Gration was just kinda left behind.
    This is one of the top things they can do with the zone, because honestly....leave the garleans idle in a giant Allagan playground, and they'll probably find some toys buried in the sand box. Unfortunately this probably won't result in more than a few MSQ scenes and the zone will be as dead as ever. Maybe the Gration could be removed from the map eventually, but I maybe recall there was a Sightseeing Vista on top of it? That usually indicates something is a permanent fixture in a zone. Lore wise it makes sense that Azys Lla is dead. It's been unavailable for so long that whoever created Aquapolis and all the buried maps apparently never had access to it. There aren't any common gathering points there yet, although with Diadem coming down for remodeling this would be a PERFECT chance to nudge people into the zone with sphalerite and royal mistletoe farming. 90% of the action in the zone right now is the Adamantite node popping every 36 minutes. The zone seriously needs some love. Maybe even additional aetherytes.
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  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Beautiful aesthetic, beautiful (albeit haunting) music
    that's pure opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    NPCs and locations with plots independent of the MSQ
    you mean like Gerolt? sure i guess there can always be more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    plenty of un-timed DoL nodes
    okay this is 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    and a dungeon that doesn't make me want to drop group every time I get it.
    i like Fractal Continuum a lot more than Dusk Vigil personally. also this is wholly irrelevant to the zone since you don't actually go there once you unlock them.
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