Azys Lla, wasted zone

[Rufalus]

Everything else looked peaceful, everybody just sat around. There were no invasions, nor camps to protect. It was all in our heads

I think the simplest fix would be revamp of Fates. They are mainly used for leveling, in a game where leveling is fast and endgame is everything so we've quickly outgrown the open-world field zones apart from occasional errands.

Fates aren't inherently bad, it's just a map marker showing you where something is happening -- we just need more interesting, more challenging, more rewarding things to do when we get there.

Include special large-area ones that pop often, maybe have multiple objectives so players spread out to protect different structures and civilians, reward tomestones for people at level cap. It changes the formula so we aren't hitting the weekly currency cap from instances alone.

[ErryK]

Just because MIN and BOT can't gather outside of timed nodes doesn't mean FSH can't...

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Honestly, you could make a case most of the massive Heavensward zones were underutilized. It's among the reasons I remain a bit... nervous they want to continue making bigger zones for Stormblood. Hopefully it won't boil down to hunts and little else though.

[Mithrahn]

That still doesn't mean the map is empty? Which was the original point of the OP? So that kinda invalidates your post.

I can pretty much say the same about your post, the one I quoted in my previous post.
You said that you see tons of people from time to time.
1-20 people in a huge zone is not "Tons of people". Your post is invalidated just as well if you say mine is.
Also, I have never once mentioned that any zone was "empty". I was only replying to your saying there have been "Tons of people".

[ServerCollaps]

okay this is 1.

basically its star cotton ball, wattle bark, luminium ore, red alumen and adamantite plus 5 bigfish and barreleye, which gives about 200 red scrips each. Then we have some Quests, Relic Fates, 3 unique TT Cards, Hunts. Theres the same amount of stuff to do as on every other map in the game

[Rinuko]

Adamantite Ores tho!
I like the zone though, fun fates and has some nice geography.. just me? no? kay..

[tymora]

Be nice to have a "release Tiamat" quest. She is just a nice ol'grandmother dragon at the moment. We should cheer her up more.

[ErryK]

I can pretty much say the same about your post, the one I quoted in my previous post.
You said that you see tons of people from time to time.
1-20 people in a huge zone is not "Tons of people". Your post is invalidated just as well if you say mine is.
Also, I have never once mentioned that any zone was "empty". I was only replying to your saying there have been "Tons of people".

Well true, both of our posts are invalid in either case. You're on Hyperion and I'm on Shiva, so yeah, if I see tons of people and you don't... that would be why.

[Mithrahn]

Well true, both of our posts are invalid in either case. You're on Hyperion and I'm on Shiva, so yeah, if I see tons of people and you don't... that would be why.

So, have you wandered through all your zones in Shiva and counted how many unique-named Player Characters you can find in each yet? I'm waiting to find out how many exactly is your "Tons of people".
I won't accept any response neglecting to cite an exact number for each individual zone.

[Atoli]

Azys Lla is ugly :x
Like, even more ugly than most HW zones, which in general are less interesting and unique than the ARR zones that are just brimming with all kinds of landmarks and life.
Even during the MSQ, I never felt rewarded for making it there, dreaded the time I had to jump around using those Allagan teleporters and was glad I made it out.

When the HW relic quest came, I praised the Twelve I didn't have to do the crystal farming there since I already had the ARR relic for turn-in.
Now that the relic quest frequently sends us back there, I never move beyond the few steps it takes to get to Gerolt.
It's actually the only zone I have not done a single sidequest in, either.

At least to me, it doesn't feel like a waste that there isn't more to do there. I'm actually glad I don't have to look at how unpleasant it looks for longer periods of time.