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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    If we're talking 1.0, I never played. As far as I've known, One-handed Swords have been Gladiator Weapons. And sure, anything can change. I just think having Alphinaud go BLU would feel forced.
    Nope Daggers were used by Gladiators all the way up until Ninja's release in 2.4.

    You are presuming it would be without knowing anything about how it would work tbh though. Imo everything atm is pointing towards Blue Mage and there are leans towards Red and Blue. Who better than Alphinaud who's twin is Red?

    Presuming something without any information is not a great argument as to why it's a bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Nope Daggers were used by Gladiators all the way up until Ninja's release in 2.4.

    You are presuming it would be without knowing anything about how it would work tbh though. Imo everything atm is pointing towards Blue Mage and there are leans towards Red and Blue. Who better than Alphinaud who's twin is Red?

    Presuming something without any information is not a great argument as to why it's a bad idea.
    Well, we -don't- know how BLU works yet =D Yet it seems unlikely (though not impossible) that SE would add a second Ranged DPS Caster Job to Stormblood.

    I'm in the camp of thinking it'll be BLU next. I don't argue with anyone on that point. I can see how it would be other classes than BLU as well, but I think it'll be BLU. What I find hard to swallow is this idea that Alphinaud will be a Blue Mage, because Alisae appears to be a Red Mage. We've had no buildup at all to suggest Alphinaud will be a Blue Mage. It would feel completely out of left field. Perhaps over the course of Stormblood we could see this gradual growth, but at the moment it feels like it would be forced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Well, we -don't- know how BLU works yet =D Yet it seems unlikely (though not impossible) that SE would add a second Ranged DPS Caster Job to Stormblood.

    I'm in the camp of thinking it'll be BLU next. I don't argue with anyone on that point. I can see how it would be other classes than BLU as well, but I think it'll be BLU. What I find hard to swallow is this idea that Alphinaud will be a Blue Mage, because Alisae appears to be a Red Mage. We've had no buildup at all to suggest Alphinaud will be a Blue Mage. It would feel completely out of left field. Perhaps over the course of Stormblood we could see this gradual growth, but at the moment it feels like it would be forced.
    Why would it need to be dps?

    Blue Mage is flexible by it's nature, it could fill any role in the group without tarnishing what the job is. White Wind for example is a heal that Blue Mages have always had for the group, Mighty Guard boosts defense dramatically etc. It's not like a Black Mage ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Why would it need to be dps?

    Blue Mage is flexible by it's nature, it could fill any role in the group without tarnishing what the job is. White Wind for example is a heal that Blue Mages have always had for the group, Mighty Guard boosts defense dramatically etc. It's not like a Black Mage ^^
    I was working along the train of thought that Alphinaud would be a Blue Mage, and therefor the Class would suit his character's current existing combat style. Even if Thancred went from Gladiator to Ninja, that's still not that big of a change. Still a front line fighter. Alternatively, if BLU were a healer I think that'd suit Alphinaud fairly well. I just don't see him falling into the melee category, but BLU (from past FF games) seems to require melee range and even being hit at times. That's something Alphinaud has always avoided.

    Granted FFXIV's BLU can be vastly different in acquiring skills, so all bets are off. I just don't think Alphinaud would match up well as a BLU given its past incarnations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    I was working along the train of thought that Alphinaud would be a Blue Mage, and therefor the Class would suit his character's current existing combat style. Even if Thancred went from Gladiator to Ninja, that's still not that big of a change. Still a front line fighter. Alternatively, if BLU were a healer I think that'd suit Alphinaud fairly well. I just don't see him falling into the melee category, but BLU (from past FF games) seems to require melee range and even being hit at times. That's something Alphinaud has always avoided.

    Granted FFXIV's BLU can be vastly different in acquiring skills, so all bets are off. I just don't think Alphinaud would match up well as a BLU given its past incarnations.
    I feel that BLU will be a tank in this game because we currently have no "Mage tank" and they seem to fit the role Best since they get hit by monster magic. My gut is telling me that this expansion will only feature mages because people have complained that there is a huge lack of Caster options, and in my opinion RDM (DPS)/BLU (Tank) remedy that. And I doubt Square enix would release their two most requested jobs at the same time. So here is how it will happen I think.

    1.) 4.0 = RDM (DPS) / BLU (Tank)
    2.) 5.0 = SAM (Tank) / DNC (Healer)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    I feel that BLU will be a tank in this game because we currently have no "Mage tank" and they seem to fit the role Best since they get hit by monster magic. My gut is telling me that this expansion will only feature mages because people have complained that there is a huge lack of Caster options, and in my opinion RDM (DPS)/BLU (Tank) remedy that. And I doubt Square enix would release their two most requested jobs at the same time. So here is how it will happen I think.

    1.) 4.0 = RDM (DPS) / BLU (Tank)
    2.) 5.0 = SAM (Tank) / DNC (Healer)
    I want to believe, but I also feel like SAM/DNC are more appropriate to an expansion about Ala Mhigo, than RDM/BLU are. Those would be better saved for 5.0, which seems to indicate we'll be going to Sharlayan. One of the Live Letters described how the current expansions are telling the story about the rebuilding of the Eorzean Alliance. 3.0 took us to Ishgard, 4.0 takes us to Ala Mhigo, and this story will end after 5.0, or more specifically, at the start of 6.0. Of the Six nations of Eorzea, all that's left would be Sharlayan, a Magic-Heavy nation by all accounts. If there was an expansion to release a bunch of Mage Jobs, that'd be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
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    Not going to lie but I am standing with my opinion that 5.0 is the Garlean Empire Expansion where we may get the Gunblade Job as one of the new Jobs for 5.0 either as the Tank or DPS Job.

    The entire story has been building up for the final battle against the Garlean Empire once Eorzea is fully united which will become united once Ala Migo becomes fully part of the Eorzean Alliance in 4.X era.

    Not to mention the constant hint that the garlean Empire is getting ready for another Invasion to Eorzea and with Ala Mhigo free from the Garlean Empire the only path into the Garlean Empire will be open.
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