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    Player GMERC's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyan View Post
    So it only matters if the system is exactly the same as in this game?

    Yes, besides cross class abilities (which the sphere grid loosely resembles) we are limited to certain skills/spells depending on our soulstone but what has that to do with glamour?
    I get it if we can't actually wear the gear because majyks but we're not actually wearing it, it's just an illusion.
    I really, really don't understand why y'all care so much about how other people dress, design and style their characters.
    The people with the borderline obsessive fixation on what people can and can't wear are the people saying there's no possible argument against lifting restrictions on glamour just because they want it and choose to ignore what others say about it (and choose to ignore Square Enix's own say in this, because obviously they know better than the game's creators!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    The people with the borderline obsessive fixation on what people can and can't wear are the people saying there's no possible argument against lifting restrictions on glamour just because they want it and choose to ignore what others say about it (and choose to ignore Square Enix's own say in this, because obviously they know better than the game's creators!).
    Lol what? XD You guys are the ones telling people what they can or can't wear. The OP is asking for the restriction to be lifted. You know, like all the other things SE has changed due to popular demand.
    You might think glamouring class specific gear is where the line is drawn but that's your opinion. There is no reason to get nasty, condescending and an overall a-hole like you have been, not only in this thread but in several others too, just because you disagree with something.
    I've never seen anyone asking for a change to claim they know better that the devs.

    Seriously y'all, this is a GAME! Why the ever loving fudge do you care so much about what other people wear?
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    Last edited by Anyan; 01-03-2017 at 02:41 AM. Reason: seriously do something about the damn character limit already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyan View Post
    Lol what? XD You guys are the ones telling people what they can or can't wear. The OP is asking for the restriction to be lifted. You know, like all the other things SE has changed due to popular demand.
    You might think glamouring class specific gear is where the line is drawn but that's your opinion. There is no reason to get nasty, condescending and an overall a-hole like you have been, not only in this thread but in several others too, just because you disagree with something.

    Seriously y'all, this is a GAME! Why the ever loving fudge do you care so much about what other people wear?
    And we're here to make it perfectly clear that it is an opposed idea, not unanimously supported. We aren't telling anyone they can't do anything. We're telling them we agree with the system already put in place for Glamour and that it doesn't need changing.

    Because it doesn't, people just need to be more creative rather than screaming that, ahem, not having every possible option is the same as having no options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyan View Post
    Lol what? XD You guys are the ones telling people what they can or can't wear. The OP is asking for the restriction to be lifted. You know, like all the other things SE has changed due to popular demand.
    You might think glamouring class specific gear is where the line is drawn but that's your opinion. There is no reason to get nasty, condescending and an overall a-hole like you have been, not only in this thread but in several others too, just because you disagree with something.

    Seriously y'all, this is a GAME! Why the ever loving fudge do you care so much about what other people wear?
    Some people like the consistency in the game. Being able to tell jobs apart because they are distinct is one of the things I personally love and I probably wouldn't have picked the game up at all if that distinctness in design wasn't there at all. I hate games where everything is generic because then it becomes a very visually boring game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Some people like the consistency in the game.
    You keep saying this but when I log into the game I dont see what you are referring to at all. I see a staff, swords, fists , a bow etc, but that's the only form of consistency in the game. The only thing I don't see is casters in metal armor what I'm asking for. But everything else is basically everyone just glaming to their hearts desire, I cant tell what job is what esp if the players doesn,t have their weapons out there is no job identity what so ever compared to other games, with fewer options.

    So what would my friend with the snow man hat and the robe on be identified as , what about the people wearing all moogle gear what job is that in the lore. Are those in the pig suits what identity are they, I see people in bikinis and short skirts , and moogle slippers on a daily basis more than I do those with no glamour at all. The only form of true Identity to characters is their main hand weapon and in the pali case their shield. Other than that its to much crazy gear in this game for the type of identity u are referring to. And Im not even on a rp server so I could only image some of the stuff people wear on balmung or other places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    -snipped-I could only image some of the stuff people wear on balmung or other places.
    You can't argue with people as stubborn as this. You can plead your case but it'd be just as effective as trying to turn Thancred gay.

    Though lets use this as an example. Could it happen? If the devs want to cash in on those fujoshi bucks. And we got a loooot of money to spare. Would it be wrong? According to some people's opinions- opinions not facts or going to some religious scriptures! Opinions, answer goes both ways. Would Square profit from it? Maybe, I think it could, but someone will disagree.

    And that's all you have to accept, that some will agree, others will disagree and will get as passive aggressive as they possibly can about it because it's a forum. Let's not turn this into another Jump Potion thread where people are still arguing in circles.
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    Last edited by Clethoria; 01-03-2017 at 03:10 AM. Reason: I was trying to prove a point then went off on tangent

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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    .
    Because you have several types of gear: Job related gear (AF gear), role related gear (Raid, dungeon gear, some tomestones'), miscellaneous gear (Pig outfit, chocobo outfit, moogle outfit, etc). They can all wear the pig outfit, it doesn't mess with their identity, it's for the giggles. However, there are defined rules based on tradition: blackmage shouldn't use a whitemage robe. Since Final Fantasy 1 (1987) Whitemage had their signature white robe with red triangles. I'm just giving this as an example. Later on, more jobs were added and their identity comes from the type of gear they are using. The bikinis, the pig outfit, the moogle attire, whatever that comes to your mind, are NOT tied to ANY identity of ANY job. You are mixing things up here.

    2 years ago, Yoshi-p answered this here: CLICK ME.. As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, I'd be down to remove the restriction for generic looking gear, like some dungeons drops, as they are already swapped and re-coloured for other jobs. But certain types of gear should stay for the sake of tradition as this is, like it or not, a Final Fantasy game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    Because you have several types of gear: Job related gear (AF gear), role related gear (Raid, dungeon gear, some tomestones'), miscellaneous gear (Pig outfit, chocobo outfit, moogle outfit, etc.
    Ok so how bout this , then would it be ok with you guys if for instance they only allowed us to glamour a certain amount of af pieces at a time like one or two max that would be compromise to me.

    Because the smallest of some of these aesthetics are not that job defining, like the ops boots, or the second post the bards pants. I would like to wear those on another class they are just pants they cant be that specific and to me what he said is just messed up about casters how are you gona let a tank wear clothe and robes , but then a caster cant wear metal thats totally wrong imo. For a male character some of the caster gear isnt very aggressive looking so if I ran a healer or caster on a male character I would def be looking to have something that was more hardcore than the current options. But like someone else said the devs have changed their minds on certain things for mass appeal reasons and I don't see why they wouldnt go back on this one , and I think a compromise would be to not allow for the glaming of a whole entire set.

    If people are still tripping at that point then they would be being stubborn because when I looked at the ops example I didn't instantly know that those where summoner boots. And tbh if they didn't wana create confusion on jobs then they should have never mailed out their first chocbo head as a vet reward, being a new player I was more caught off guard by where the hec did that come from than , a paladin in a robe. The devs kinda contradict themselves on this, if we are talkin about pure image and not what it says on the tag line by all gear accessible if Im using my own two eyes then, they have failed on keeping the identity intact on their jobs so why pretend as if allowing us to change this feature would be any different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Ok so how bout this , then would it be ok with you guys if for instance they only allowed us to glamour a certain amount of af pieces at a time like one or two max that would be compromise to me.
    I know you really want some pieces from certain AFs, but... Still sounds like in contradiction with the dev team's idea, and what a AF is supposed to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    If people are still tripping at that point then they would be being stubborn because when I looked at the ops example I didn't instantly know that those where summoner boots.
    Well, i did. And i'm probably not the only one. It's not because you didn't know that means it's irrelevant. ^^;
    But yeah, we are stubborn. Us. Not you, don't worry. I think i can live with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    And tbh if they didn't wana create confusion on jobs then they should have never mailed out their first chocbo head as a vet reward, being a new player I was more caught off guard by where the hec did that come from than
    Is that a reason ? I mean, between that kind of comparison and the jump potion, you seem really lost... Because it's totally off topic. :/
    (unless Chocobo Mage was something, and that suit its AF)
    And again, nobody said a mage couldn't wear an armor, most of us want more diversity, and it's totally possible without ruinning things around just for a piece or two.
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    Last edited by Wanzer; 01-03-2017 at 04:16 AM.

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