Please lift glamour restrictions!

[bswpayton]

Like the Idea that someone would even wear a complete full set of job specific gear is funny in itself, because from what I've seen once people level up they don't even use these sets and nobody really even wears the full set.

You guys are just assuming by lifting the restrictions all of a sudden people will then decide to wear a full set of Job specific armor when even those jobs arent walking around in said armor. Lifting the restrictions will open the door for stuff like op wants pieces of the gear to go with other glamour choices. The boots , not the whole set is what they are asking, the small percentage of people that would actually wear a 100 percent full set of job specific gear would be so small and u guys know it. Its called mix and matching its what people do now and what they would do if they lifted this restriction.

Stuff like the paladin crown is something id use for glamour, someone mention the bard pants, I highly doubt if said restriction was lifted then all of sudden people would decide to wear a whole complete set on a job the amount of people that would do this is very small. So unless you are wearing a 100 percent glammed over full set of any jobs gear yourself then do assume that people would do this , you are just using this to try to empower your opposition.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

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Except that it has actually happened in game where they made job specific gear able to be used by everyone and it immediately went from looking cool to looking extremely meh.

[bswpayton]

Except that it has actually happened in game where they made job specific gear able to be used by everyone and it immediately went from looking cool to looking extremely meh.

So Im guessing all of your jobs are wearing 100 percent job specific gear if any at all then correct? I can tell you I may only be wearing the paladin crown, and thats about it. I see no one wearing this gear at all, other than when they first get it.

And if they lifted the restriction then all it would do is open up the door for add ons like the crown , are boots, wrist bans are things such as this. Nobody is gona go oh let me dec out my blm, in full on ninja gear the whole set completely cause even ninjas arent wearing the full set themselves . You cant honestly say that even 10 percent of people where a full set of job specific gear , and Im on three servers and I never see it.

[Niwashi]

You cant honestly say that even 10 percent of people where a full set of job specific gear, and Im on three servers and I never see it.

This is in large part due to a completely different limitation of the current glamour system. Glamour is tied to equipped gear, but equipped gear is shared between multiple jobs. If we had the option to wear our strongest healer gear for instance and have it glamoured one way when we're playing WHM, another when playing SCH, and another when playing AST, and similarly for each of the other roles, then I'm confident that we'd be seeing a whole lot more AF glamour than we do now.

So yes, it's true that AF gets limited use, and that fact is already frustrating to those who want better job identity. I keep hoping SE will adapt the glamour system to make it more viable. But just because job specific gear ins't perfect now, saying that those already frustrated by its limitations should have it's identity taken away entirely, isn't reasonable. It's bad already, so lets make it worse? That's not a good way to design a game. How about instead of asking them to take away what little job identity those sets give us, ask them to fix the glamour system so we can make better use of what job identity they do provide.

[ErryK]

Like the Idea that someone would even wear a complete full set of job specific gear is funny in itself, because from what I've seen once people level up they don't even use these sets and nobody really even wears the full set.

Don't talk about us making assumptions when you are automatically making one by saying this stupid statement. I've seen plenty people glamouring AF gear as well as using it (back when it was relevant in 2.0 and 3.0). Glamouring it and using it should only be locked to the jobs, period. Why? Because seeing a DRK wearing WHM gear is stupid.

If you want the PLD crown, why don't you request a crown you can glamour on every class instead of asking job-specific gear to be unlocked for any job to wear it?

[bswpayton]

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I have stated this I am fine with more options I want more options for casters I would at the minimum let that dow and casters had the same freedom as tanks. Meaning that tanks can wear , dow, and caster gear thats three different options. Dow only has two options and casters pretty much can only wear caster gear aside from the one tiny metal chest piece that someone else linked.

But I also said looking at the post of the op, it is no way I can disagree with them if Im being fair how can I tell someone that boots are off limits just because they are job specific, like boots that distinctive enough that you no instantly which job it is. So that being said to open to door for the small things like the op is asking you could only do it in a way to where you just unlocked the whole system as a whole. Unless they made some sort of system to where you can only use certain items from a job. So I am not specifically saying I only want to do it this way , what Im saying is that what other way is possible for people like the op to get their choice in glamour aside from getting rid of the whole system as it currently is.

[Niwashi]

what Im saying is that what other way is possible for people like the op to get their choice in glamour aside from getting rid of the whole system as it currently is.

One possible way (that I've frequently heard suggested, and have advocated myself) is that they unlock the vast majority of glamour restrictions, so anything that's NOT AF can be glamoured regardless of your current job. Only keep the restriction in place for job specific gear. (That wouldn't even need to be set on individual pieces, but could be rule-based: If the set of classes/jobs able to wear the gear is a set of only 1 class or job, then using it as glamour is restricted to only that class/job. If the set of classes/jobs that can wear it is a list of multiple ones, then any class/job can glamour it, whether it's in that list or not.)

That way, all jobs would have the same number of options. Mages would have a wider variety of armour to choose from. And so on. Yet each of the jobs would still be able to retain their own iconic looks, provided by those AF sets that would then be the only remaining restriction.

[bswpayton]

One possible way (that I've frequently heard suggested, and have advocated myself) is that they unlock the vast majority of glamour restrictions, so anything that's NOT AF can be glamoured regardless of your current job. Only keep the restriction in place for job specific gear. (That wouldn't even need to be set on individual pieces, but could be rule-based: If the set of classes/jobs able to wear the gear is a set of only 1 class or job, then using it as glamour is restricted to only that class/job. If the set of classes/jobs that can wear it is a list of multiple ones, then any class/job can glamour it, whether it's in that list or not.)

That way, all jobs would have the same number of options. Mages would have a wider variety of armour to choose from. And so on. Yet each of the jobs would still .

I would def take something like this