Please lift glamour restrictions!

[Shurrikhan]

I'd like to be able to see glamours be usable across their armor class, perhaps, but I would have slightly preferred that we didn't have the serious option to tank in bikinis in the first place.

I'll take the wardrobe, though. Granted, SE is probably unwilling to part from whatever retainer revenue purposely keeping a limited glamour system would encourage.

[ReplicaX]

It was boring because the only argument is the lore the lore the lore, Iv'e mention several points of horrible lore and just intervention done by the devs to bypass lore and somehow its all justifiable.

As stated there is one argument you can't win: Creative Control and preservation of assets.

That is not even lore.

Go look at WoW's Transmog. Its a fine example of Creative Control and preservation of assets. They have a larger Dev team and have made years of revenue off the IP. Regardless of community requests. The game still has stricter rules than XIV and they refuse to spend resources and money to redo their item system for even dyeing options.

[Nirokun]

What is convincing about a tank in a swimsuit?

As for your weapon point... You talk like you feel as though you've caught me in a trap, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Honestly, if FFXIV were like Rift in that classes were able to equip more than one type of weapon, I'd be all for lifting weapon restrictions, too. In that game's system, you can use any 2-handed weapon appearance (staff, 2h axe, polearm, 2h mace) on any 2h weapon generally because they use the same animations. Same thing with one-handed weapons (can use any 1h weapon), ranged (guns, bows) and offhands (shields, foci, etc). That's certainly reasonable there, for the reason I mentioned. I would treat this game more like WildStar when it comes to weapons, where you can only use other appearances of the same weapon type - and that's largely due to animations. An esper can only use psyblade skins from the holo-wardrobe, for example. Same concept here, where a ninja would only use dagger skins.

I've already stated I'd rather there be MORE restrictions with glamour, and that I don't agree with pandering to people wanting to hyper-sexualize their character i.e. bikini tanks. I think certain gear (bikinis, maid outfits, reindeer, pigs, snowmen, etc) shouldn't be glamourable, if you want my opinion. Wear it in a dungeon and die, if I had MY WAY.

Both WHM and BLM are able to use 2h and 1h weapons, making a carpenter's saw-wielding WHM a possibility (all DoH weapons behave like swords as evidenced by change pose emote, and PLD is able to use white magic animations so the groundwork is there). Anyway, I was asking that question to determine where you stood on the issue of a carpenter's saw-wielding WHM, to then ascertain what level of ridiculous you agree with. It's clear that it's full-throttle lunacy, and I've made my point.

[MistakeNot]

I definitely agree that SE should remove the glamour restrictions on the vast majority of gear in the game. But the AF sets are an important exception. Those alone should remain locked to the job they represent, and should do so precisely because they represent that job. Every job in Final Fantasy has an iconic look (based off earlier games where you didn't get any choice in what outfit your character wore except by changing jobs). In every non-MMO Final Fantasy with a job system, your job determines your outfit.

Here, because it's an MMO and people want to look different from each other, we're given far more freedom in choosing what to wear. But Final Fantasy fans (and SE themselves) don't want to lose the iconic looks of each job that have followed the series through so many games. That's what the AF sets were created for, to preserve those iconic FF job designs within this game. Turning them into just generic outfits that you could wear with any job would destroy that. Their whole purpose for existing is their link to the job they represent.

It's funny - to a first approximation NOBODY actually wears these "iconic" outfits in this game. Oh, I am sure there is the odd person here and there, but for the most part I never see people wearing them. Clearly most players are not interested in this "iconic" look. So okay, have the AF sets as an exeception - not because they are so important, but because nobody will use them for glamour anyway.

But even so, this isn't about wearing the actual items. It is about wearing an illusion - a glamour - of the items.

[AlphaFox]

To be honest, there is some gear that looks amazing and I would love to use outside of the class, the only real way I see that happening though is if they release a similar item but called it something else. Personally, that Alchemist level 50 would be my main healer set I feel if I could. However we have items in dungeons that were for say rouges that an update or two later, a similar looking item but for healers or mages.

[Celef]

I really don't get the FF community, it's the first time in my "MMO life" i see players not wanting more options dress their character oO
Guys, you are weird ^^"

[Miste]

Except, again, there is no lore that suggests we would be unable to cast a glamour of any job-related gear over the appearance of something else. The lore you're pointing to simply doesn't exist.

I've explained it like twice now, if you still don't understand then I don't know much else to tell you since I've already explained it quite simply. The lore is there you just refuse to acknowledge anything that goes against what you want. You don't have to accept it, but you can't ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist...like you keep trying to do.

It isn't about "illusioning" and "you aren't actually wearing the gear" it is about the fact that FF jobs have specific design styles that only those jobs wear and to have other jobs wear it, be it actually equipped or just "illusioned", is against the lore of how FF jobs are identified.

Maybe this is your first FF title? Because the lore about how certain jobs dress has been there since 1987 (Final Fantasy I) like I said already before. Not every FF title follows it closely but FFXI and FFXIV have both followed it since they first added job specific gear. Which means SE decided to follow the lore about what kind and what style of clothes certain jobs wear as their specific sets and they use that lore base for the design every time they add job specific sets of gear.







Anyway if you still don't understand why lore is a valid reason to be against removing the restrictions on the job specific sets then it is just a lost cause.

[Jadub2k]

I really don't get the FF community, it's the first time in my "MMO life" i see players not wanting more options dress their character oO
Guys, you are weird ^^"

No kidding. This community has a hard time coming together on almost anything, you can goto almost any thread and no matter the topic you'll see people butting heads with each other lol its gotten basically to the point that this game runs on complaints now lol (anyway back on topic)



I highly doubt this would happen, kinda like each job having there own look (if you call 1-3 jobs using the same set but different color there own lol) But trust me I know how you feel. I 'd rather have some kind of Glamour waredrobe implimented (as much as people are tired of hearing this, Glam is the endgame after all lol) If anything, what I rather have is the Grand company Glam restrition lifted and let us glam gear reguardless of afiliation.. You spent the time grinding for it, you earned it but now you can't glam it because you changed companies. Sure I wouldn't mind changing back if I didn't have to wait 2 Weeks. At bare minimum this is what I'd like to see.

[Reaperking386]

As a Dark Knight, I want to keep my class identity. There are just somethings worth preserving. This is one of them.

[Gemina]

I really don't get the FF community, it's the first time in my "MMO life" i see players not wanting more options dress their character oO
Guys, you are weird ^^"

Of course we want more options. Who doesn't want that? But there are elements that make Final Fantasy XIV a Final Fantasy game. Boundaries, so to speak that should not be trespassed. I can understand why some things can be difficult to understand if you are new to the franchise. If you are under this umbrella, please understand that fans of the of franchise do want more options, but not at the cost of the integrity and principles that have created the legacy they have grown to love.