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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    This is a pretty boring rebuttal, it can be said about pretty much anything 'for the sake of more options'. Why do you feel like you should be able to
    It was boring because the only argument is the lore the lore the lore, Iv'e mention several points of horrible lore and just intervention done by the devs to bypass lore and somehow its all justifiable.

    All that tells me is people pick and chose what it is they want to believe is lore appropriate. The silly suits like I keep mentioning and tanks being able to wear basically anything they want, o well that's fine its not lore but it was just put in for jokes and laughs. Oh the fact that the game doesnt even connect the job system at all oh thats ok because I like to play all my characters on one so I dont really need an explanation for that (Warrior of Light Ill take that broad statement and run with it).

    Skipping 75 percent of the game which is as lore as it gets oh that doesnt matter, we need more players to come to the game ill over look that. A scholar wanting to wear summoner boots when it branches from the same exact class, hah all hell breaks lose no never thats against the lore. If everyone cared about lore as much as they claim they would demand an explanation for the job system to begin with in this very game, but nobody cares about this event tho, its basically aside form msq what the whole game is based on.

    All these post have shown me is that people like to disagree with changes to their favorite type of lore not lore itself when it comes to this game. That people will overlook major plot wholes if its to their own convenience or perception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    It was boring because the only argument is the lore the lore the lore, Iv'e mention several points of horrible lore and just intervention done by the devs to bypass lore and somehow its all justifiable.
    As stated there is one argument you can't win: Creative Control and preservation of assets.

    That is not even lore.

    Go look at WoW's Transmog. Its a fine example of Creative Control and preservation of assets. They have a larger Dev team and have made years of revenue off the IP. Regardless of community requests. The game still has stricter rules than XIV and they refuse to spend resources and money to redo their item system for even dyeing options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    But please answer me this nobody has answered how does what Im suggesting effect you in a dungeon , raid, or whatever kinda content you like to run on the game. Other than your oppositon there is really no reason at all to why it that would drastically change the way you proceed in combat.
    What does combat have to do with anything? We're discussing appearance. Our characters could all be stick figures or chess pieces with no displayed gear at all and it wouldn't affect combat. It would, however, be a very different game.


    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    The silly suits like I keep mentioning and tanks being able to wear basically anything they want, o well that's fine its not lore but it was just put in for jokes and laughs.
    Wearing an outfit that looks silly and doesn't really say anything about what job you're currently on is different than wearing an outfit that declares you to be one job when in fact you're another. One of those just isn't making a claim, whereas the other is making a false claim.

    (Personally, I'd prefer it if some of the joke gear was excluded from the glamour system altogether, but that's a separate topic that's not really relevant to the current thread. Liking or disliking something is different than recognizing whether it fits the lore and the franchise or not.)


    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Oh the fact that the game doesnt even connect the job system at all oh thats ok because I like to play all my characters on one so I dont really need an explanation for that (Warrior of Light Ill take that broad statement and run with it).
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    If everyone cared about lore as much as they claim they would demand an explanation for the job system to begin with in this very game, but nobody cares about this event tho, its basically aside form msq what the whole game is based on.
    Except the game does give quite extensive lore explanations of all the jobs, and how we learn them all. That's what all the job quests are about (especially the initial quests that unlock new jobs). Our ability to alternate between them, studying multiple different styles is brought up in game as well, though only briefly since there's really nothing to explain there.

    If you mean the exact mechanics of where and how we can switch between them, that's more of a gameplay concern. (Like we can't switch jobs in the middle of an instanced dungeon, but lore doesn't have any such thing as "instances". It's purely a game concept.)

    I think you're expecting more of an explanation in the lore about why we can learn multiple jobs simply because you're used to other games where you can't, but really, it's the games that limit you to only one that have something to explain in that regard. (Though they don't all actually do so.) FFXIV lore isn't going to explain why it's different from other games, if those other games aren't part of the lore. And within the Final Fantasy franchise itself, those sort of limitations aren't the norm. Freely switching just as we do here is the norm.
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