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    The story jump potion idea kinda has me worried.
    I was assuming they would find a better way to resolve the story gating issue once Stormblood hits, such as maybe separating the different stories akin to Guild Wars 2, so you could work on ARR and Heavensward separately at your own pace.
    Also removing the story requirements to actually access the expansion areas would be my natural expectation.
    Been trying to get my girlfriend to play and if the only way for her to access the content I've been showing her and what's available in the next expac is to grind for weeks/months or pay for a skip feature then I'm almost certain you've lost 2 customers already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vezyn View Post
    The story jump potion idea kinda has me worried.
    I was assuming they would find a better way to resolve the story gating issue once Stormblood hits, such as maybe separating the different stories akin to Guild Wars 2, so you could work on ARR and Heavensward separately at your own pace.
    Also removing the story requirements to actually access the expansion areas would be my natural expectation.
    Been trying to get my girlfriend to play and if the only way for her to access the content I've been showing her and what's available in the next expac is to grind for weeks/months or pay for a skip feature then I'm almost certain you've lost 2 customers already.
    And it was already explained why the devs can't simply "drop" level and story requirements without causing other issues.
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    I have few issues with the job level to 60 potion to let players experience Stormblood asap, but if they really can't fix the gating issue a story catch up potion just seems like it should be an option integrated into the game rather than something we have to pay seperately for.

    It just seems ridiculous to have to pay for a feature in a subscription based MMO while other free to play games have systems in place to avoid such an issue.

    And I personally wouldn't use either potions, I enjoy the leveling experience and am kinda OCD when it comes to missing anything story related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    And it was already explained why the devs can't simply "drop" level and story requirements without causing other issues.
    Was it explained why it seems they are making the same mistakes again with HW's leading into stormblood. Players complained what a bad idea the linking of ARR and HW quest chains was. Yet here a few years down the road history looks to be repeating and a round about admittance it cause issues to the player base growing. Which was one of the biggest complaints pre HW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Was it explained why it seems they are making the same mistakes again with HW's leading into stormblood. Players complained what a bad idea the linking of ARR and HW quest chains was. Yet here a few years down the road history looks to be repeating and a round about admittance it cause issues to the player base growing. Which was one of the biggest complaints pre HW.
    If you don't enjoy it pay the money and skip it! Dont force them to change what a lot of people enjoy with the connected storyline. They have already stated several times other key features won't be locked to the story which is more than enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    If you don't enjoy it pay the money and skip it! Dont force them to change what a lot of people enjoy with the connected storyline. They have already stated several times other key features won't be locked to the story which is more than enough.
    *sigh* It's like people don't bother listening.

    We - at least I - do not want to skip the MSQ entirely. We just want to be able to play the rest of the game (which is primarily instanced content) without being forced to first plow through the MSQ gates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    *sigh* It's like people don't bother listening.

    We - at least I - do not want to skip the MSQ entirely. We just want to be able to play the rest of the game (which is primarily instanced content) without being forced to first plow through the MSQ gates.
    I listen perfectly. Everything is set up in a way to make thing cohesive, I'm sorry you and many others don't understand that. This really isn't even an issue anymore most of the 3.x patches have been cut to have barely any filler. So again pay for the skips and let everyone else enjoy a cohesive story that ties everything together. The new jobs won't be gated which is what a lot of people had an issue with from HW. Would I like the new zones to hopefully not be locked? Yes, but if they are then ill suck it up and do what needs to be done to access them.

    Its about the journey and being a main title FF game many fans from series want that and enjoy that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    They have already stated several times other key features won't be locked to the story
    You mean like entry into stormblood? Read the first post of this thread, you need to beat 3.55 part 2 to enter Raelgars Reach (or wherever the expat starts).

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    It would take quite a bit of rework just to accomplish an in game skip
    Isn't the jump potion an ingame skip? won't it take the same amount of time? (except with one being A) free, and B) far more intuitive to player experience). As I said, the technology has already been used within the game.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 12-30-2016 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    You mean like entry into stormblood? Read the first post of this thread, you need to beat 3.55 part 2 to enter Raelgars Reach (or wherever the expat starts).
    And???? As ive said some of us appreciate the continuous story! SE clearly doesnt want to crap all over the story like they have with other features. If you want to reach right up to Stormblood without doing ARR or HW reach into that wallet and pay the price for a skip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    And???? As ive said some of us appreciate the continuous story! SE clearly doesnt want to crap all over the story like they have with other features. If you want to reach right up to Stormblood without doing ARR or HW reach into that wallet and pay the price for a skip.
    Here's the thing, if forced between paying for a skip or having to trudge through the storyline to access almost all the instanced content, most people will just go "Nope! Won't play this game." - Something else needs to be done, and I speak as someone who plays FFXIV for the story. If you want this game to thrive, you need to have a way to incentivise newbies while all the veterans steamroll ahead. Most new players couldn't give 2 hoots about the story and would rather it die in a fire. I don't think you and I will ever agree though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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