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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    That is just how people are when it comes to content for certain people. They expect everything to be obtainable free even if certain things are out of the developers control and would exaggerate how important those contents are even if they are not that important.


    Look at Mobius Final Fantasy Global community, for example, as certain people are over exaggerate how Legend Jobs are the only Jobs that can beat endgame stuff like 4 star multiplayer bosses but as the JP ranking has shown a lot of the Normal Free Summon Jobs can handle endgame with some performing better than Legend Jobs and Legend Jobs are not required for endgame. Yes, it is a greedy move by the Chinese/Taiwanese developers sponsering FF Mobius Global version and managing the Global version sales more towards Chinese and Taiwanese players as I am against this type of means but there are already free alternatives for those Legend Jobs already in the game and more free alternatives to arrive later.
    Firstly, I would like to direct you to a reply I made to someone earlier in this thread found here

    As far as I am aware no one, and at the very least, not myself are asking for these things at out any sense of being entitled to them. Nor do I want them for free when the other player bases had to pay for them. That's lunacy.

    What I do want, however, is for there to be equal treatment amongst the various versions of the game. The Chinese and Korean versions get exclusive items all the team. North America and Europe have never ONCE had an exclusive item. Japan had one set of exclusive items, which, after requesting feedback and receiving a popular demand for them, became items that every version of the game recieved. Do these items threaten my ability to play the game? No, not at all, but they are lovely items and I would like to have them because I would, believe it or not, use them.

    Not to mention, there are no free alternatives for many of these items in the NA/EU/JP version of the game because MANY of these items are unique to their version of the game. We do not have an alternative for the cloud mount, the angel and demon outfit, nor for the new dance that was introduced. If there were alternatives that were CLOSE to them, I would be happy with that, but there simply aren’t. Hence the request for them.

    Also, to point out in your statement, you mention the Chinese and Taiwanese Developers for FF Mobius but, for FFXIV, there is no other development team. From the research various people in this thread and myself have put into the subject, the game is not leased by a Developer but merely by a Provider. This provider allows for the game to hosted through them so it can be accessed by Chinese and Korean internet users. The various companies hosting FFXIV in these countries DO NOT develop these items, as we have seen interviews and even video of the in house Japanese development team working on items FOR the Chinese version of the game. Our best guesses, as we have no confirmation, as for why is this happening is due to some kind of contract with those providers in this countries saying they want SE to provide incentive for their potential costumers to play. A business practice that, while I understand, I wholly disagree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Oh my....shhh let them get exclusive stuff or let them get it earlier than us. Remember chinese version is still at patch 3.3 or so nothing wrong with them having stuff we dont have currently.
    Sorry, not interested in shushing. Especially when YoshiP asked the community to provide feedback regarding these exlusive items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Sorry, not interested in shushing. Especially when YoshiP asked the community to provide feedback regarding these exlusive items.

    Yeah and 2 outfits got added...like the answer of the dev team says they obviously dont want to put to much on the mogstation. Chinese version will always have smth that we dont have or atleast earlier than us (like for example the red fenrir) which is okay since they are patches behind. Kinda sick of these entitled players who want everything that a other version of the game has and in the end they gonna complain about how its not ingame but on cash shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Sorry, not interested in shushing. Especially when YoshiP asked the community to provide feedback regarding these exlusive items.

    I think this is more on a case by case sort of thing. As in: "We're going to keep adding regional exclusives, and if there is enough demand from other nations as we release new exclusives, we might consider adding them globally."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Yeah and 2 outfits got added...like the answer of the dev team says they obviously dont want to put to much on the mogstation. Chinese version will always have smth that we dont have or atleast earlier than us (like for example the red fenrir) which is okay since they are patches behind. Kinda sick of these entitled players who want everything that a other version of the game has and in the end they gonna complain about how its not ingame but on cash shop.
    Looks like I need to pull this out again:

    I keep seeing people coming here and throwing around words like entitled and entitlement.



    Let me clear up the confusion here.

    Wanting does not equal feeling entitled to something.

    Entitlement
    en•ti•tle•ment
    /inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt/
    noun
    noun: entitlement; plural noun: entitlements

    1. the fact of having a right to something.
    "full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered"
    synonyms: right, prerogative, claim;

    2. the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
    "no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement"
    Want
    /wänt,wônt/
    verb
    verb: want; 3rd person present: wants; past tense: wanted; past participle: wanted; gerund or present participle: wanting

    1. have a desire to possess or do (something); wish for.
    "I want an apple"
    synonyms: desire, wish for, hope for, aspire to, fancy, care for, like;
    While I can’t speak for everyone else here, I can speak for myself. I am not asking for these items because I have any sense of feeling like I deserve them. I am providing the feedback that was asked for during the live letter, showing the development team that I would like to have them.

    So, kindly, stop coming into this thread and throwing around the word like it's some kind of bullet proof arguement about why someone who would simply like to have the same pretty pixels as someone else shouldn't be allowed to have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    I think this is more on a case by case sort of thing. As in: "We're going to keep adding regional exclusives, and if there is enough demand from other nations as we release new exclusives, we might consider adding them globally."
    Right. Which is part of the point of this thread, a place to collectively show the various items other versions of the game have gotten and to show support if those items are so desired.

    It is simply mine own opinion that there shouldn't be regional exlusive items to begin with. It is a buisness practice that I disagree with on a personal level, as stated before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Yeah and both outfits got added...like the answer of the dev team says they obviously dont want to put to much on the mogstation. Chinese version will always have smth that we dont have or atleast earlier than us (like for example the red fenrir) which is okay since they are patches behind. Kinda sick of these entitled players who want everything that a other version of the game has and in the end they gonna complain about how its not ingame but on cash shop.
    And none of that should be the case. Chinese players shouldn't be patches behind (if they actually are because SOMEONE didn't bring definitive proof of that) and everyone should have access to the same items across all versions of the game. That's one of the things that the OP is suggesting here, but I guess it was "TL;DR" for some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
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    I was not refering to you.

    I was refering to certain thought process of people we may see involving exclusive content at certain areas as there will always be people who demand something easily access for free even if the means to obtain one such thing for free via event or etc in the game or not is out of control of the player base or main developers. The Developers must make a choice between agreeing with certain terms involving the Host game company for their marketing choice of their version or discontinue their contract and shut down their version of the game.

    Though as things go on now it seems the agreement they have involve exclusive content, though no actual serious effect on other servers except for glamour use, for their servers first and if popular enough may bring to others though not as free content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    And none of that should be the case. Chinese players shouldn't be patches behind (if they actually are because SOMEONE didn't bring definitive proof of that) and everyone should have access to the same items across all versions of the game. That's one of the things that the OP is suggesting here, but I guess it was "TL;DR" for some people.
    Well since the Korean youtube channel uploaded 3.2 trailer in november 2016 and my friend who is playing the chinese version told me they are behind too I would guess its true. Its easy to say it shouldnt be like that but thats not smth that the company of the game can change. I personally disagree not everyone should have access to all items across all versions its nice to have some exclusivity in a game being it region lock, promotions or events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    I personally disagree not everyone should have access to all items across all versions its nice to have some exclusivity in a game being it region lock, promotions or events.
    Why? Seriously asking.

    What is negative about everyone having equal opportunity to obtain an in game item? It doesn't mean it has to be handed to us (Like raid weapons or Fenrir mount etc) but I fail to see the negative side of putting everything in the game globally. Personally I love when they put more items in game. Gives me something to do and work towards.

    If it is about exclusivity that is what real life is for. Don't need to see that nonsense in an online game. As long as something is offered equally (even if its for a limited time) I would say that is perfectly acceptable.
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