Why do you torture us with superfluous restrictions?

[Felis]

Abandoned you the queue or the already finished party?

[HPDelron]

The leaver penalty is a punishment for conduct unfair to your fellow players. To simply allow you to bounce from one content type to another to circumvent the punishment while still short-changing your group members would defeat the purpose entirely.

[Chevronone]

I understand how the penalty works, what I don't understand is why it effects BOTH when you cannot queue for BOTH. Why do they treat them as one for the penalty but separate for queuing? That's what my post is about.

Regarding wasting time, we spent an hour in duty complete. It was 5/8 premade, with me being one of the 3 joining it solo. The premade group refused to abandon and would not vote kick their healer who afked for over 15m to "start dinner." They also thought it would be mildly entertaining to make the other 3 of us wait around and would not agree to dismiss us. They kept pulling the boss and dying on purpose, therefore wasting our time. I was left with options, wait until our instance expired or abandon the duty.

So, while you speculate as to my culpability, you refrain from addressing my original point.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I understand how the penalty works, what I don't understand is why it effects BOTH when you cannot queue for BOTH. Why do they treat them as one for the penalty but separate for queuing? That's what my post is about.

Regarding wasting time, we spent an hour in duty complete. It was 5/8 premade, with me being one of the 3 joining it solo. The premade group refused to abandon and would not vote kick their healer who afked for over 15m to "start dinner." They also thought it would be mildly entertaining to make the other 3 of us wait around and would not agree to dismiss us. They kept pulling the boss and dying on purpose, therefore wasting our time. I was left with options, wait until our instance expired or abandon the duty.

So, while you speculate as to my culpability, you refrain from addressing my original point.

Because the entire point is to discourage people from quitting their parties. It wouldn't be much of a punishment if you could quit the duty finder than go off to start an extreme primal or potd. Both essentially allow you to ignore the penalty by doing something else whereas the system makes it so you pretty get to do fates or idle for a half hour.

First of all, I'm of the belief that the penalty should be say a 12 hour ban from the entire game for dropping out of group content. I dunno, I feel like the current punishment isn't strict enough (be glad I only said that, when I did it, I believed it warranted a permanent ban from the game without appeal. Yes, I've even reported myself to a GM for it to try and make that happen.)

Secondly, in your situation, a report would just go down as difference in playstyle most likely. So unfortunately, suck up the penalty I'm afraid. But I can agree it's one area that needs to be worked on, but I don't know what SE can do.

Thirdly, on the point of queueing up for different things... in RF you can only queue for one duty at a time, just like roulettes. I wonder why?

Putting aside the absurdity of that length. If they ever did make the penalty longer, people would just troll until they were kicked from the party. And if the penalty equally applied to those kicked, people would abuse it whenever they got players who they deemed bad. There's a reason people spam vote abandon in Weeping City.

[Vivi_Bushido]

Abandoned you the queue or the already finished party?

It's kinda hard to abandon a queue when everyone get's upset with you for clicking the button at all. Soon after, they all go "Just leave and take the hit! You're replaceable!"